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  • #46
    Originally posted by Turbo3000 View Post
    As is every other fucking politician!

    They don’t want you to follow the money. None of them do.
    True, but very rarely are politicians funded by a foreign enemy and essentially "placed" into politics to work on their behalf.

    I'm OK with Mike Pence or Paul Ryan, but Trump needs to go. It's ridiculous at this point.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by lipripper View Post
      I can't wait to see how these fucks try n spin this memo that's gonna be released. If...and again...I say if...what's in it is what I think it is....all these fucks are gonna be set straight....
      ^

      The memo has been released, Rip. You are free to read it. Is what's in it what you thought would be in it?

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      • #48
        Originally posted by M00chie69 View Post
        You said the memo had cracked the dam and that Russian collusion was an "LOL".

        Have you even, by chance read the memo? It claims that the FBI is partisan and against Trump so they are trying to take him down. It's Trump's only play at this point is to attack the law enforcement agency who is investigating him and his family. He's a cornered rat and this is his only way out. It's a hail mary.

        The guy has been in deep with Russian money since they financed him in 2008 to get him out of the real estate crash. All loans are forgiven if he goes into politics, and lightens sanctions and works for their best interests. Just follow the money, and we all know Mr Trump is all about the money.
        funny that's no proof of collusion in his time of running for office/ campain you dip shit... your trying to put stuff from before he ever ran for office and tie it into the time he ran for office...LMFAO

        yep I said that, that there is no proof of collusion. If any surfaces Id be the first to admit it....I did not say what YOU have IMPLIED I said... get REAL..do you honestly believe all this shit the cliintons have done and been thru over the years..they are innocent? if you do..your a loon ..

        Are there crooked fucks in the FBI? I'm sure there are.. but I also believe most are good hard working americans...Are there crooked cops in most police depts.? I'm sure there are but does that mean I believe all cops are corrupt? FUCK NO!
        listen how desperate you sound to defend them...your a damn joke.

        So its been well over a year..where is the SOLID PROOF that TRUMP colluded with Russia DURING HIS CAMPAIN??? SHOW IT TO ME!!!? oh..thats right..there isn't any..because if there was it would of come out by now.

        Am I a big fan of Trump..No..Ive said all along I wanted 3 things from him. Ive said he s a narcissist.. yet you think I believe he walks on water...

        grow the fuck up for Christ sake.;

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        • #49
          Originally posted by M00chie69 View Post
          ^

          The memo has been released, Rip. You are free to read it. Is what's in it what you thought would be in it?
          some..yes..it shows ties between the Clinton campaign, the so called x brit spy and the GPS corporation that produced this so called dossier that was used for the fisa warrant that was paid to be produced... lots of circumstantial evidience, but if they have documentation that's not being released due to national security issues it can be some damning evidence.

          See the difference..I can admit its circumstantial(at this point)...you cant..you believe everything to be hard facts against trump..but anything about the left..you simply dismiss. If your not honest enough to admit that..your so far left youll never admit anything. and it don't matter because you would just flat out never admit anything was wrong. It takes a man to admit a mistake..not blame others or find excuses for it. I don't think your there..or ever will be to be honest.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by lipripper View Post
            some..yes..it shows ties between the Clinton campaign, the so called x brit spy and the GPS corporation that produced this so called dossier that was used for the fisa warrant that was paid to be produced... lots of circumstantial evidience, but if they have documentation that's not being released due to national security issues it can be some damning evidence.

            See the difference..I can admit its circumstantial...you cant..you believe everything to be had facts. If your not honest enough to admit that..your so far left youll never admit anything. and it don't matter because you would just flat out never admit anything was wrong. It takes a man to admit a mistake..not blame others or find excuses for it. I don't think your there..or ever will be to be honest.
            Right. Let me ask you this though. Regardless of who paid for the dossier, why does that make it fake or not fake? Christopher Steele is a british spy, yes. He's paid to be a spy - thta's his job. What if Clinton, or whoever paid for it actually cared about America and was concerned that someone running for president was working for a foreign enemy?

            What if our next president let's say a democrat coming in 2020 is currently working with the North Korean govt and Trump is concerned so he pays a spy to do spy work to see how deep this guy is in with North Korea in order to protect America? If a FISA warrant is needed, and you need dirt to obtain it then isn't this just standard protocol?

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            • #51
              don't bring circumstantial situations into this..again..your playing games with the situation..because you cant honestly explain it.

              If anyone does anything to influence an election if its a local hick town for mayor or one like this...your ok with that? you can find an excuse to allow interference in an election?

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              • #52
                Originally posted by lipripper View Post
                If your not honest enough to admit that..your so far left youll never admit anything.
                Lip, what leads you to believe that I'm some extreme leftist just because I'm 1000% against Trump? I've said I voted for Bush, I've said I'm pro 2nd amendment and own guns, I've said I'm a big fan of Evan McMullan and even said I'm OK with Pence and even Paul Ryan.

                I'm pretty consistent here. Why do you think I'm some extreme Bernie Sanders leftist? This is what Fox News does to you bro. Anyone who disagrees with you, regardless if they have a point or not is the "Extreme Enemy".

                Come on man, I'm not some commie. MANY MANY republicans are against Trump. They see right through this piece of shit.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by lipripper View Post
                  don't bring circumstantial situations into this..again..your playing games with the situation..because you cant honestly explain it.

                  If anyone does anything to influence an election if its a local hick town for mayor or one like this...your ok with that? you can find an excuse to allow interference in an election?
                  I'm OK with someone paying a Spy to do Spy work to find out of someone running for president of the united states is in bed with a foreign enemy. Period. That's my stance. Seems pretty rational.

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                  • #54
                    Steel..yep a real stand up guy...not partisan at all...fucking things that people do for money..LOL

                    Clinton associates were "feeding" allegations to former British spy Christopher Steele at the same time he was compiling the controversial anti-Trump dossier paid for by the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign, according to an unclassified memo from senior Senate Republicans who recently made a criminal referral.

                    Those Republicans, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., had asked the Justice Department in January to investigate Steele based on evidence they say suggests he lied to the FBI about his contacts with the media (a violation of 18 USC 1001) -- or the FBI misrepresented Steele’s statements.

                    The lawmakers are now asking the FBI for an emergency review of their criminal referral so it can be made public, with limited redactions.


                    Steele already is under scrutiny over the unverified Trump dossier, which a House Intelligence Committee document released last Friday alleged was at the heart of the FBI and DOJ’s request for a surveillance warrant for a Trump associate.

                    The memo from Grassley and Graham, which is now public for the first time, provides new insight into Steele’s circle of contacts during that time. While heavily redacted, the memo states Steele said he received information that came from "a foreign sub-source who 'is in touch with (redacted), a contact of (redacted), a friend of the Clintons, who passed it to (redacted).”


                    "It is troubling enough that the Clinton Campaign funded Mr. Steele's work, but that these Clinton associates were contemporaneously feeding Mr. Steele allegations raises additional concerns about his credibility," the senators wrote to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, who oversees the Russia probe, and FBI Director Christopher Wray.

                    "...there is substantial evidence suggesting that Mr. Steele materially misled the FBI about a key aspect of his dossier efforts, one which bears on his credibility,” the senators wrote.

                    Entire sections of the memorandum were redacted by the FBI on the basis that it contained classified information, though a review of the document shows the FBI redacted references to media reporting, including a Washington Post story available on the Internet.

                    The senators are asking for a declassification review because much of the information was declassified by the president when the House Intelligence Committee memo was released Friday. The memo found the dossier was used to obtain a surveillance warrant on Trump campaign aide Carter Page -- and neither the FBI nor Justice Department told the national security court that it was financed by the DNC and Clinton campaign, and bureau contact with Steele was terminated over his contact with the media.

                    While the FBI fought the release of that memo, the senators also say the FBI’s claims “mischaracterize and misstate” the amount of classified information in the Steele referral. The senators are asking that the FBI and Justice Department “immediately review the classified referral in light of [Friday’s] declassification and provide the Committee with the declassified version by no later than February 6, 2018.”

                    In a heavily redacted Jan. 19 letter, Gregory A. Brower, assistant director for FBI congressional affairs, said the FBI "respects" the committee's commitment to transparency but the bureau "cannot and will not weaken its commitment" to protecting classified information because it is in the public domain.


                    "Public reporting about (redacted) does not affect the FBI's policy with respect to classification (redacted) nor does it diminish our obligations (redacted),” he wrote.

                    The House Intelligence Committee has long struggled with the FBI and Justice Department over access to Trump dossier and surveillance records. After August subpoenas were ignored, the committee threatened to hold Wray and Rosenstein in contempt of Congress before a deal was reached.

                    The memo detailing alleged surveillance abuse by the FBI and Justice Department was fully declassified after the committee followed a long-standing congressional rule which asks the president whether he objects to the record's release. In this case, the president exercised his powers as commander-in-chief to immediately declassify the document.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by M00chie69 View Post
                      Lip, what leads you to believe that I'm some extreme leftist just because I'm 1000% against Trump? I've said I voted for Bush, I've said I'm pro 2nd amendment and own guns, I've said I'm a big fan of Evan McMullan and even said I'm OK with Pence and even Paul Ryan.

                      I'm pretty consistent here. Why do you think I'm some extreme Bernie Sanders leftist? This is what Fox News does to you bro. Anyone who disagrees with you, regardless if they have a point or not is the "Extreme Enemy".

                      Come on man, I'm not some commie. MANY MANY republicans are against Trump. They see right through this piece of shit.
                      I don't care what you think of trump..see that's the problem..Its not about him!!! Its about the ACTIONS taken to INFLUENCE OUR POLITICAL PROCESS AND ELECTION.. turn on the switch..so you can see... Your so blinded because you don't like him..your willing to sacrifice how the country governs itself just to be rid of him.... LMFAO

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                      • #56
                        What's your opinion on Devin Nunes, the guy who wrote that memo? A Stand up guy?

                        Devin Nunes just told Fox & Friends that Trump never met George Papadopoulos. Here's a picture of them together.

                        Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) appeared on Fox & Friends on Monday to talk about the FBI's investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Specifically, he made some questionable claims downplaying the importance of President Trump's former foreign policy adviser, George Papadopolous, who has proved surprisingly essential to a swirl of controversy in Washington.

                        Papadopolous triggered the FBI's probe of the Trump campaign and Russia, thanks to a drunken conversation with an Australian diplomat in which he touted Russia's hacking efforts against Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. He has also been indicted for lying to the FBI — but Nunes claimed that none of that really matters, because Papadopolous played such a minor role in the Trump campaign. In fact, "as far as we can tell, Papadopoulos … never even had met with the president," Nunes told host Brian Kilmeade.

                        Devin Nunes just told Fox & Friends that Trump never met George Papadopoulos. Here's a picture of them together.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by lipripper View Post
                          I don't care what you think of trump..see that's the problem..Its not about him!!! Its about the ACTIONS taken to INFLUENCE OUR POLITICAL PROCESS AND ELECTION.. turn on the switch..so you can see... Your so blinded because you don't like him..your willing to sacrifice how the country governs itself just to be rid of him.... LMFAO
                          It is about Trump. He's our president and he's not working on our best interests. That's the whole point of this. He's potentially working for Russia and we have assembled an independent investigation led by LIFELONG REPUBLICAN, and American hero Robert Mueller.

                          It's 100% about Trump.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by M00chie69 View Post
                            What's your opinion on Devin Nunes, the guy who wrote that memo? A Stand up guy?

                            Devin Nunes just told Fox & Friends that Trump never met George Papadopoulos. Here's a picture of them together.

                            Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.) appeared on Fox & Friends on Monday to talk about the FBI's investigation into collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia. Specifically, he made some questionable claims downplaying the importance of President Trump's former foreign policy adviser, George Papadopolous, who has proved surprisingly essential to a swirl of controversy in Washington.

                            Papadopolous triggered the FBI's probe of the Trump campaign and Russia, thanks to a drunken conversation with an Australian diplomat in which he touted Russia's hacking efforts against Hillary Clinton during the 2016 election. He has also been indicted for lying to the FBI — but Nunes claimed that none of that really matters, because Papadopolous played such a minor role in the Trump campaign. In fact, "as far as we can tell, Papadopoulos … never even had met with the president," Nunes told host Brian Kilmeade.

                            Devin Nunes just told Fox & Friends that Trump never met George Papadopoulos. Here's a picture of them together.
                            another bait and switch...gotta love it...LMAO

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                            • #59
                              Rip, just remember. When your grandchildren are reading about the Traitor we have in the white house in their history books, you'll have to tell them that you voted for and supported and defended this clown. History is not going to look too kindly on Trump supporters.

                              Also, DOW just went down another 500 points today, after losing 665 points on Friday like it typically does when you cut taxes, cut regulations, and go to war with the FBI because your under investigation. See Nixon. See Bush tax cuts in 2004, go look at what preceded the great depression in the late 20s.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by lipripper View Post
                                another bait and switch...gotta love it...LMAO
                                What? Bait and Switch? I'm right on topic. You just attacked Christopher Steele, and posted excerpts of Nunes' memo, so I responded to ask what you thought about Nunes since you don't think much of Steele. Did you even know Nunes wrote the memo?

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