33 DEAD 130 INJURED IN KNIFE ATTACK

[lipripper]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/3...g-spree-n41966

[Bouncer]

wouldn't have happened if me and you would have been there with our AR's rip. imagine how many lives we could have saved with our evil "weapon of war assault rifles"...

but Chinese citizens aren't allowed to defend themselves so..

they really need to consider knife control laws over there... maybe only allow plastic butter knives and sporks.. lol

[Bouncer]

by the way i changed your title because you suck cock at making titles.

[lipripper]

by the way i changed your title because you suck cock at making titles.

Got you to look...

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[ROCKETS REVENGE]

ha out law knives and hand out sporks thats funny.
people dont get it, guns are not the issue

[piratex]

ha out law knives and hand out sporks thats funny.
people dont get it, guns are not the issue

Yep. Guns don't kill. People kill. These quacks use assault riffles to kill a lot of people fast.

I believe if they ban the sale of assault riffles then quacks will build their own bombs.

They don't need a gun to kill a lot of people.

[Bouncer]

Yep. Guns don't kill. People kill. These quacks use assault riffles to kill a lot of people fast.

I believe if they ban the sale of assault riffles then quacks will build their own bombs.

They don't need a gun to kill a lot of people.

even if they ban the sale of all guns. there is still roughly 500,000,000 firearms out there in the US. a confiscation of that scale would literally bankrupt the government. can't be done.

my point being that even with a total gun ban, people won't even need to build bombs, they can still easily get firearms.

[Keiser]

The younger generation in this country are anti-gun. Just look at the kids speaking out from that high school. Eventually they will have the power in numbers and they will vote on this issue and they will win. I don’t agree with it but here is what I think will happen.

I think within the next 10-15 years all semi automatic guns will be illegal to own including pistols. It’s stupid but that’s what I think will happen.

[Bouncer]

The younger generation in this country are anti-gun. Just look at the kids speaking out from that high school. Eventually they will have the power in numbers and they will vote on this issue and they will win. I don’t agree with it but here is what I think will happen.

I think within the next 10-15 years all semi automatic guns will be illegal to own including pistols. It’s stupid but that’s what I think will happen.

maybe right but you will still have police and military that are 90% pro gun. making those people go around collecting peoples guns wont be easy.

on top of that you have some old school hardcore types that will literally die for their guns. i'm not saying I would. i have too much to live for and I love my family too much for that shit but there are definitely many people in this country that would shoot it out to the death. it will be a blood bath.

as you know, all banning something does is create a bigger black market. we will have more fire arms being made with 3d printers, underground machine shops, overseas smuggling etc.. guns will always be part of america.

[Keiser]

maybe right but you will still have police and military that are 90% pro gun. making those people go around collecting peoples guns wont be easy.

on top of that you have some old school hardcore types that will literally die for their guns. i'm not saying I would. i have too much to live for and I love my family too much for that shit but there are definitely many people in this country that would shoot it out to the death. it will be a blood bath.

as you know, all banning something does is create a bigger black market. we will have more fire arms being made with 3d printers, underground machine shops, overseas smuggling etc.. guns will always be part of america.

Agree, but there will probably be some Govt program where they give you 3x-5x the value of your semi-auto gun in cash if you turn it in. Pawn shops will do the same and there will be a big gold rush like that cash for clunkers program with old shitty cars.

Those who choose to hold on to their semi-auto guns will be allowed to keep them in their homes (the over my dead body crowd), but if caught outside the home, they will be cited/fined and the gun will be confiscated. As these people die off and their guns passed down to the younger generation, this generation will turn the guns in for cash.

Over time, with this strategy they will slowly disappear like they did in New York City when the mayor enacted those strict gun rules. It won't be overnight, but it will eventually weed them out. This is what I believe will happen in our lifetime.

[Bouncer]

Agree, but there will probably be some Govt program where they give you 3x-5x the value of your semi-auto gun in cash if you turn it in. Pawn shops will do the same and there will be a big gold rush like that cash for clunkers program with old shitty cars.

Those who choose to hold on to their semi-auto guns will be allowed to keep them in their homes (the over my dead body crowd), but if caught outside the home, they will be cited/fined and the gun will be confiscated. As these people die off and their guns passed down to the younger generation, this generation will turn the guns in for cash.

Over time, with this strategy they will slowly disappear like they did in New York City when the mayor enacted those strict gun rules. It won't be overnight, but it will eventually weed them out. This is what I believe will happen in our lifetime.

I don't think they will ever die out because there will always be criminals, police, military etc..

Guns haven't died out in NYC bro. They are just Illegally owned.

I think really what you're saying is the "gun culture" will change as the generations go by. I agree with you there. Men are basically turning into women so...

[Keiser]

I don't think they will ever die out because there will always be criminals, police, military etc..

Guns haven't died out in NYC bro. They are just Illegally owned.

I think really what you're saying is the "gun culture" will change as the generations go by. I agree with you there. Men are basically turning into women so...

They will never completely die out, but it will be much more difficult to get your hands on one, and if caught with one outside the home the punishment will be greater, so the risk of leaving the home with one on you will go up.

The NYC example isn't the best because you can still get them from neighboring states. They did something similar in Australia, looking for the data....

[Keiser]

Australia enacted strict gun control laws after a horrific mass shooting in 1996. It worked.

In 1996, Australia Enacted Strict Gun Laws. It Hasn't Had a Mass Shooting Since.



On April 28, 1996, a gunman opened fire on tourists in a seaside resort in Port Arthur, Tasmania. By the time he was finished, he had killed 35 people and wounded 23 more. It was the worst mass murder in Australia’s history.

Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.

At the heart of the push was a massive buyback of more than 600,000 semi-automatic shotguns and rifles, or about one-fifth of all firearms in circulation in Australia. The country’s new gun laws prohibited private sales, required that all weapons be individually registered to their owners, and required that gun buyers present a “genuine reason” for needing each weapon at the time of the purchase. (Self-defense did not count.) In the wake of the tragedy, polls showed public support for these measures at upwards of 90 percent.

What happened next has been the subject of several academic studies. Violent crime and gun-related deaths did not come to an end in Australia, of course. But as the Washington Post’s Wonkblog pointed out in August, homicides by firearm plunged 59 percent between 1995 and 2006, with no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. The drop in suicides by gun was even steeper: 65 percent. Studies found a close correlation between the sharp declines and the gun buybacks. Robberies involving a firearm also dropped significantly. Meanwhile, home invasions did not increase, contrary to fears that firearm ownership is needed to deter such crimes. But here’s the most stunning statistic. In the decade before the Port Arthur massacre, there had been 11 mass shootings in the country. There hasn’t been a single one in Australia since.

There have been some contrarian studies about the decrease in gun violence in Australia, including a 2006 paper that argued the decline in gun-related homicides after Port Arthur was simply a continuation of trends already under way. But that paper’s methodology has been discredited, which is not surprising when you consider that its authors were affiliated with pro-gun groups. Other reports from gun advocates have similarly cherry-picked anecdotal evidence or presented outright fabrications in attempting to make the case that Australia’s more-restrictive laws didn’t work. Those are effectively refuted by findings from peer-reviewed papers, which note that the rate of decrease in gun-related deaths more than doubled following the gun buyback, and that states with the highest buyback rates showed the steepest declines. A 2011 Harvard summary of the research concluded that, at the time the laws were passed in 1996, “it would have been difficult to imagine more compelling future evidence of a beneficial effect.”

[Bouncer]

Underground machine shops and 3d printing, and overseas smuggling.

When shit gets banned the black market explodes.

When alcohol was banned and made Illegal in America consumption went up!

[Bouncer]

Australia enacted strict gun control laws after a horrific mass shooting in 1996. It worked.

In 1996, Australia Enacted Strict Gun Laws. It Hasn't Had a Mass Shooting Since.



On April 28, 1996, a gunman opened fire on tourists in a seaside resort in Port Arthur, Tasmania. By the time he was finished, he had killed 35 people and wounded 23 more. It was the worst mass murder in Australia’s history.

Twelve days later, Australia’s government did something remarkable. Led by newly elected conservative Prime Minister John Howard, it announced a bipartisan deal with state and local governments to enact sweeping gun-control measures. A decade and a half hence, the results of these policy changes are clear: They worked really, really well.

At the heart of the push was a massive buyback of more than 600,000 semi-automatic shotguns and rifles, or about one-fifth of all firearms in circulation in Australia. The country’s new gun laws prohibited private sales, required that all weapons be individually registered to their owners, and required that gun buyers present a “genuine reason” for needing each weapon at the time of the purchase. (Self-defense did not count.) In the wake of the tragedy, polls showed public support for these measures at upwards of 90 percent.

What happened next has been the subject of several academic studies. Violent crime and gun-related deaths did not come to an end in Australia, of course. But as the Washington Post’s Wonkblog pointed out in August, homicides by firearm plunged 59 percent between 1995 and 2006, with no corresponding increase in non-firearm-related homicides. The drop in suicides by gun was even steeper: 65 percent. Studies found a close correlation between the sharp declines and the gun buybacks. Robberies involving a firearm also dropped significantly. Meanwhile, home invasions did not increase, contrary to fears that firearm ownership is needed to deter such crimes. But here’s the most stunning statistic. In the decade before the Port Arthur massacre, there had been 11 mass shootings in the country. There hasn’t been a single one in Australia since.

There have been some contrarian studies about the decrease in gun violence in Australia, including a 2006 paper that argued the decline in gun-related homicides after Port Arthur was simply a continuation of trends already under way. But that paper’s methodology has been discredited, which is not surprising when you consider that its authors were affiliated with pro-gun groups. Other reports from gun advocates have similarly cherry-picked anecdotal evidence or presented outright fabrications in attempting to make the case that Australia’s more-restrictive laws didn’t work. Those are effectively refuted by findings from peer-reviewed papers, which note that the rate of decrease in gun-related deaths more than doubled following the gun buyback, and that states with the highest buyback rates showed the steepest declines. A 2011 Harvard summary of the research concluded that, at the time the laws were passed in 1996, “it would have been difficult to imagine more compelling future evidence of a beneficial effect.”

no comparison to America. our black market is literally thousands fold bigger. cali alone has a bigger population then all of Australia. they never had even 1% of the guns we have in this nation right now.

its like comparing a 1 celled organisem to the human body. its not a compairson at all.