18 school shootings this year

[chuckz28]

As far as the mental health decline of our society I don't even know where to begin because It can't be blamed on a single fault. This is a multi front issue brought from multiple years of issues.

[lipripper]

That's fine, but the majority of schools don't have these types of teachers as a whole. .

Please show me where you get this information from? I'm willing to bet this is an opinion.. not a fact you can prove:D

[Keiser]

Keiser the solution in some areas might be different than others. In your more blue areas where they don't like guns and don't care about higher taxes they might be willing to have schools with more armed guards. Other areas might find it more useful to arm some teachers. There doesn't need to be a national single solution just a national effort.

Agree. I'm thinking a hybrid approach with armed security in which teachers could participate in if they were willing and able. But, giving a blanket statement about "arming teachers" is what I'm saying won't work, especially on the coasts.

[Keiser]

Please show me where you get this information from? I'm willing to bet this is an opinion.. not a fact you can prove:D

You can't even carry guns in many of the cities I mentioned. Armed teachers in NYC, Chicago, and SF? You know I'm right on this one lip!

[Bouncer]

I would say it's the minority of school that have them. Not even 50% of schools. Think about how many schools there are in this country, especially in the dense population centers.

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One problem with the south, and I can speak on this because I was born and raised in the south so my friends and family and formerly myself are included in this assessment:

In general, they think only in terms of their own geographic location and how things work there and try to apply it to the rest of the US and the rest of the world. Do you really fucking think all the millions of schools in New York City, Philly, Connecticut, Jersey, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Portland have these billy bad ass teachers walking around who you can train and trust to carry a gun to work every day? These are the population centers. This is where the majority of the people in this country live.

Come on man.

Yes absolutely there are teachers in Jersey, Philly, Chicago etc.. that would be perfectly capable and willing. What world do you live where you think a teacher has to be a "billy bad ass" to learn some basic training and be willing to conceal carry to protect their students. Sometimes you come across like your from the fucken moon bro.

[Bouncer]

You just proved my point. You're thinking too narrowly. Your thought process is only around your school district in your local vicinity. Expand your mind a little bit, it's a big world out there. Travel more, that helps.

Bouncer, you know I'm right about this one... You've experienced both the south, the east, and now the west.

No your absolutely wrong. I've experienced the north, the south, the Midwest (Chicago for 3 years) and now Cali. There are people in every state and county perfectly able and willing to carry.

[Bouncer]

You can't even carry guns in many of the cities I mentioned. Armed teachers in NYC, Chicago, and SF? You know I'm right on this one lip!

Their are exceptions and one could be made for select teachers willing and able to participate in a "student protection program". you couldn't be more wrong on this one.

[Keiser]

Yes absolutely there are teachers in Jersey, Philly, Chicago etc.. that would be perfectly capable and willing. What world do you live where you think a teacher has to be a "billy bad ass" to learn some basic training and be willing to conceal carry to protect their students. Sometimes you come across like your from the fucken moon bro.

What experience do you have with school districts in these areas? Do you know teachers there?

Most teachers on the coasts are intellectuals like Scrum. They have no business handling a gun. Most schools are in the population areas.

And let's say you do have a teacher or two who chooses to take the training and arm themselves, what happens when they are home sick and the substitute is in? This is why you need armed security, with a few teachers willing, mixed in. You can't just blanket say, "Arm the teachers".

[Keiser]

Their are exceptions and one could be made for select teachers willing and able to participate in a "student protection program". you couldn't be more wrong on this one.

So we agree. And these exceptions you speak of could join the the armed security team I speak of. Would be a great Hybrid solution! But, teachers wouldn't be required to carry. They'd have to volunteer and go through the training with the security company.

"Arm the teachers" without the security company is foolish and not realistic.

[lipripper]

You can't even carry guns in many of the cities I mentioned. Armed teachers in NYC, Chicago, and SF? You know I'm right on this one lip!

Not what you stated...re read what you stated..don't flip it

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[Chadd77]

Good news:

Trump endorses guns for teachers to stop shootings - BBC News

[Bouncer]

What experience do you have with school districts in these areas? Do you know teachers there?

Most teachers on the coasts are intellectuals like Scrum. They have no business handling a gun. Most schools are in the population areas.

And let's say you do have a teacher or two who chooses to take the training and arm themselves, what happens when they are home sick and the substitute is in? This is why you need armed security, with a few teachers willing, mixed in. You can't just blanket say, "Arm the teachers".

What experience do I have with the schools? Your the one that pointed out how I've lived all over and "I know your right" you dumbass.

You're willing to credit me with living all over the country as long as I agree with you but when I disagree you say "what do you know about schools in those areas!" Lmao

[Bouncer]

So we agree. And these exceptions you speak of could join the the armed security team I speak of. Would be a great Hybrid solution! But, teachers wouldn't be required to carry. They'd have to volunteer and go through the training with the security company.

"Arm the teachers" without the security company is foolish and not realistic.

Who the fuck said teachers would be required to carry?

I said there are teachers that would be willing and able at almost every school across the country. I'm sure there are some exceptions like small schools with minimal staff.

[Keiser]

Bouncer, please work on your reading comprehension skills. My point about you living all over is that "you know I'm right" about people in the south being narrow minded and only thinking about how things are in their general town/vicinity/school district.

[Keiser]

I said there are teachers that would be willing and able at almost every school across the country. I'm sure there are some exceptions like small schools with minimal staff.

I completely disagree. Are you even following this debate and hearing what teachers are saying?

I've got an idea. Let's have every single teacher in the united states vote on this. What do you think the results would be?