Fucking Australia and guns.....

[lipripper]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/f...tralia-n873301

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[Bouncer]

Nuts will be nuts. Very sad.

[redback]

Lol Rip. That kind of goes against your own argument mate. Our worst mass shooting in 22 years and It was only 7 people. How many do you guys have every week lol.

Thanks for confirming our gun laws work.

[lipripper]

Lol Rip. That kind of goes against your own argument mate. Our worst mass shooting in 22 years and It was only 7 people. How many do you guys have every week lol.

Thanks for confirming our gun laws work.

You don't have gun problems...remember you gun laws are perfect...it shows it's not the law...it's not the guns...it's the people..your to blind to see that

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You don't have gun problems...remember you gun laws are perfect...it shows it's not the law...it's not the guns...it's the people..your to blind to see that

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I think you are the one blind. I have NEVER said we don't have gun crime. Of course we have gun crime.

My argument is that since the gun laws were put in place our gun crime and mass shootings decreased. It made it much harder for criminals to get their hands on them.

How can that possibly be a bad thing?

[lipripper]

I think you are the one blind. I have NEVER said we don't have gun crime. Of course we have gun crime.

My argument is that since the gun laws were put in place our gun crime and mass shootings decreased. It made it much harder for criminals to get their hands on them.

How can that possibly be a bad thing?

It's not...for criminals....but to impede law abiding citizens the right is...that's my point you refuse to see or accept. I want criminals not to have guns yet you don't see that

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[chuckz28]

How about some real facts about Australia and how the US compares


In Australia, firearm homicides and suicides were falling from the mid-1980s onwards, so you could pick out any subsequent year and the average firearm homicide and suicide rates after that year would be down compared to the average before it.

The question is whether the rate of decline changed after the gun buyback law went into effect. But the decline in firearm homicides and suicides actually slowed down after the buyback.

Australia’s buyback resulted in almost 1 million guns being handed in and destroyed, but after that private gun ownership once again steadily increased and NOW EXCEEDS what it was before the buyback.

In fact, since 1997 gun ownership in Australia grew over three times faster than the population (from 2.5 million to 5.8 million guns).

For other crimes, such as armed robbery, what happened is the exact opposite of what was predicted. The armed robbery rate soared right after the gun buyback, then gradually declined.

European countries such as Belgium, France and the Netherlands have even stricter gun control laws than Australia does, but their mass public shooting rates are at least as high as those in the United States.

During the Obama administration, the per capita casualty rate from shootings in the European Union was actually 27 percent higher than the U.S. rate.


Norway is #1, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million . No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.

"There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed," the study said. "Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom."

"But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany's and five times the U.K.'s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher."

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How about some real facts about Australia and how the US compares


In Australia, firearm homicides and suicides were falling from the mid-1980s onwards, so you could pick out any subsequent year and the average firearm homicide and suicide rates after that year would be down compared to the average before it.

The question is whether the rate of decline changed after the gun buyback law went into effect. But the decline in firearm homicides and suicides actually slowed down after the buyback.

Australia’s buyback resulted in almost 1 million guns being handed in and destroyed, but after that private gun ownership once again steadily increased and NOW EXCEEDS what it was before the buyback.

In fact, since 1997 gun ownership in Australia grew over three times faster than the population (from 2.5 million to 5.8 million guns).

For other crimes, such as armed robbery, what happened is the exact opposite of what was predicted. The armed robbery rate soared right after the gun buyback, then gradually declined.

European countries such as Belgium, France and the Netherlands have even stricter gun control laws than Australia does, but their mass public shooting rates are at least as high as those in the United States.

During the Obama administration, the per capita casualty rate from shootings in the European Union was actually 27 percent higher than the U.S. rate.


Norway is #1, with an outlier mass shooting death rate of 1.888 per million . No. 2 is Serbia, at just 0.381, followed by France at 0.347, Macedonia at 0.337, and Albania at 0.206. Slovakia, Finland, Belgium, and Czech Republic all follow. Then comes the U.S., at No. 11, with a death rate of 0.089.

"There were 16 cases where at least 15 people were killed," the study said. "Out of those cases, four were in the United States, two in Germany, France, and the United Kingdom."

"But the U.S. has a population four times greater than Germany's and five times the U.K.'s, so on a per-capita basis the U.S. ranks low in comparison — actually, those two countries would have had a frequency of attacks 1.96 (Germany) and 2.46 (UK) times higher."

Can you post the source please.

Heres a thing...Australia = no mass shooting epidemic (why?)
America = Mass shootings off the charts (why?)

[lipripper]

Can you post the source please.

Heres a thing...Australia = no mass shooting epidemic (why?)
America = Mass shootings off the charts (why?)

Evil that's in people pretty simple

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[chuckz28]

Can you post the source please.

Heres a thing...Australia = no mass shooting epidemic (why?)
America = Mass shootings off the charts (why?)

Multiple sources


Australian institute of Criminology
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc...=rep1&type=pdf

Australian criminal intelligence commission
https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/g/file...f?v=1476249461


SSRN research https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....ract_id=272929

Crime research
https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/co...us-and-europe/

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/05/mo...ass-shootings/

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/02/wi...united-states/

[lipripper]

Multiple sources


Australian institute of Criminology
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc...=rep1&type=pdf

Australian criminal intelligence commission
https://www.acic.gov.au/sites/g/file...f?v=1476249461


SSRN research https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....ract_id=272929

Crime research
https://crimeresearch.org/2015/06/co...us-and-europe/

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/05/mo...ass-shootings/

https://crimeresearch.org/2018/02/wi...united-states/

Boom!! Chuck!!!!?


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[Bouncer]

rip i thought you were burnt out on gun talk? didn't i tell you you'd be right back to it after your vacation? lol

[lipripper]

rip i thought you were burnt out on gun talk? didn't i tell you you'd be right back to it after your vacation? lol

naw, just hitting that ausie cause he damn sure wouldn't of mentioned it... he would of been like a mouse in church:rofl:

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naw, just hitting that ausie cause he damn sure wouldn't of mentioned it... he would of been like a mouse in church:rofl:

Violent crime and rape sharply rose after their gun laws went into effect.

Traded one crime for another. Fixed nothing. People's lives are still destroyed every day in Australia by violent criminals. Not by knives, not by bombs, not by guns, not by terrorist... By people. That is the common denominator.

Anyone who can't see this has the IQ of an aardvark. These types read the headlines but never the fine print.

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naw, just hitting that ausie cause he damn sure wouldn't of mentioned it... he would of been like a mouse in church:rofl:

I didn't even hear about it until you posted it but its like out worst mass shooting in like fucking 100 years and it was like 7 people. lol.