Testosterone reference ranges reduced for men

[chuckz28]

This is a straight up crock of shit. My last blood test had a note saying the reference ranges have been lowered for healthy non obese men age 19-39 to 264-916 when before it was 348-1159. It referenced a pub med # so I looked it up. Here it is for anyone interested

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28324103

So basically they said the range is lower for everyone so that is the new norm and it was all based off of only 100 people! Good luck getting try if you were borderline before. I guess your suffering is now "normal".

Women of today will have more testosterone than men a few generations later.

[Bouncer]

Absolute insanity. So in 10 years if test levels are lower in 100 random men they will say "ahh this must be the new standard" rather than saying "men's test levels seem to be getting lower, maybe we should look into this".

Remember the Pixar movie Wall-E? All the fat slobs only interested in sitting around eating. They were dead on accurate.

Sissy's and slobs, that's the future male.

[chuckz28]

Yeah I'm dumbfounded over it. It really does make it sound like systematic pussification of the country.

[chuckz28]

We need to meninists to push for men's rights and manliness against the femenists.

[Bouncer]

You turn on food network or HGTV to watch House hunters and it's nothing but gays. Now I don't have any problem with gays but it's almost like the shit is in fashion. Like it's actually cool to be gay and if your not gay you should try really hard as a man to carry yourself in a gay way. Lol. Feminine men and gay men are admired and a style in and of itself now. Fuck sake.

[chuckz28]

Agreed

[Bouncer]

As I typed my response above a group of teenagers walking to the pool past my patio (I have windows open). They were about 15-16 and talking loud. Every single one of their voices sounded like they were about 10 years old, high pitched and bitchy sounding. Something is happening to people because of western society nutrition or drug intake or some shit. I sound like some tinfoil hat nut but I swear to God I see it everywhere I look.

General Sherman and US Grant are spinning in their graves. Real men. They were probably on civil war era steroids... Wisky and steak. :D

[Bouncer]

Chuck, $100 says if you send this thread to Palumbo and Jason Blaha they will do a YouTube video on it. :D

[chuckz28]

Yeah there is no doubt about that shit bro. It is everywhere. They popularized feminine qualities. Skinny jeans, wearing pink, etc. The youngins are fuckin pussies.

[Bouncer]

Us bodybuilder types are the only ones who should be allowed to wear tight fitting clothes. Pink tank tops and spandex pants is real deal. We were the OG's of faggotry. :D

[chuckz28]

Based off 100 people. Psh. Anybody here trust a national presidential poll based off 100 people? Should be based on 10,000.

[Bouncer]

Based off 100 people. Psh. Anybody here trust a national presidential poll based off 100 people? Should be based on 10,000.

This is were I disagree with you I think.

Your basically saying the results aren't real because they only based it on 100 people. I disagree with you there. I think if they had based it on 100,000 people the result would be the same. I think there is a true lowering of testosterone levels in men taking place. I think if they do this study in 50 years it will be much lower than today.

My main issue is the medical community saying "oh this is the new normal" instead of being alarmed and studying just why the fuck hormone levels are dropping in men.

[chuckz28]

Yeah it's dropping accross the board but the bigger the pool the more outliers you will have. It could also matter if they only pooled 100 people from the same 100 mile radius vs the whole country. I bet if you had some farm fed men in there the results would be higher than a bunch of hipsters.

[Bouncer]

Yeah it's dropping accross the board but the bigger the pool the more outliers you will have. It could also matter if they only pooled 100 people from the same 100 mile radius vs the whole country. I bet if you had some farm fed men in there the results would be higher than a bunch of hipsters.

Good point. My girl like to watch the show food paradise where they show different restaurants around the country. I do notice that there does seem to be a common theme, whenever the show is in Texas, or Philly, Jersey, Brooklyn etc there seems to be a lot of "normal old fashioned tough guys". But whenever the show is in California (I'm sad to say), the west coast in general, Manhattan, and a few other places there seems to be a theme of feminine dudes with fucken buns and high pitched voices. I still love Cali but there is a huge difference out here compared to back home in Jersey. A lot more dandy fucks out here.

[lipripper]

You turn on food network or HGTV to watch House hunters and it's nothing but gays. Now I don't have any problem with gays but it's almost like the shit is in fashion. Like it's actually cool to be gay and if your not gay you should try really hard as a man to carry yourself in a gay way. Lol. Feminine men and gay men are admired and a style in and of itself now. Fuck sake.

Yes bro....This is liberals in action my man...It's OK.(Pat on your shoulder...Here's your trophy)..:thumup: but hey...You better not be bias or say anything against it...Or your labeled... A hater...Anti gay...Racist....What ever they wanna label you for your believe. Your not allowed to believe in a man being a man....Or god...Or hunt...Or lift weights....But don't dare say anything....When they protest you!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
I say fuck all of them!:weights::thumup::clapback: