Milk - Does it do a body good?

[gdbear65]

Originally posted by DangerousGround
I love 2%

But does it love you?

[majoradams]

Originally posted by Juka865
i like milk, I drink no fat or skim... so thats homogenized right??? But anyways ppl have been drinking milk since for ever. Now if you posted shit on smoking cigs or doing lsd and value ur health. Id understand that more

Didnt you even read the first post

[Gary]

I have had mixed feelings about milk because of the conflicting theories. I like it but am concerned about the antibiotics and other 'enhancements' that our screwed up economic system causes the dairy farmers to do for their financial survival. All the European countries have banned antibiotics and hormones, so it is more serious than some hippies running around like chicken littles.

So, I drink non-fat, organic milk and cheese. Quite a bit, in fact.

[gdbear65]

It's better to be safe than sorry.

Deca mentioned that milk that does not meet the state standard for bacteria and somatic cell count does not make it to market. (The somatic cell count (SCC) is commonly used as a measure of milk quality. Somatic cells are simply animal body cells present at low levels in normal milk. High levels of these cells in milk indicate abnormal, reduced-quality milk that is caused by an intramammary bacterial infection (mastitis). source: http://ianrpubs.unl.edu/dairy/g1151.htm) The state and federal standard for SCC is 750,000 as measured in one milliliter of milk. To me this seems kind of high. And you really have to question whether or not this standard is set to protect the consumer or to protect the dairy industry. On the whole our goverments tend to favour business interests over consumer interests.

I believe deca when he says dairy farmers aren't going to mess around with cows that are valued between $3k and $5k, however I would tend to think that it is more applicable to the independent farmer. The corporate dairies won't care about wasting a few cows so long as the bottom line is significantly improved, which by the sounds of it, BGH will do.

Deca also mentioned that we have the enzymes and bacteria in our stomachs that are expressly for digesting milk. I believe the enzyme he is referring to is called lactase. Our bodies stop producing this enzyme by five years of age.

I've been aware of these issues surrounding cow's milk for a couple of years now, but like most people, did not believe it. I've now stopped drinking it altogether. I don't live in the US, but I don't thnk the milk in Canada is much safer, though BGH is not approved for use here. For what it's worth, my advice to everyone is to try abstaining from milk for a month to six weeks and see how you feel afterwards. How much can it hurt?

[ExNihilo]

It will be quite obvious to you if you do not have the enzymes to digest milk, about 2-3 hours after ingestion...

If you do not suffer from painful bloating, gas, diahrea and sometimes abdominal cramping, you have the enzymes to digest milk. If you do, you suffer from a well known medical condition called lactose intolerance.

[mcalo4]

all mammals drink milk. Were supposed to. I like it and I drink it, and plenty of it. Dont listen to Arnold "milk is for babies."

Drink up junior.

[realconan]

Originally posted by gdbear65
If you don't wish to see the logic in any of this that's fine, but just because you say it is so, doesn't mean it is so. You have a vested interest in this, I don't. Whether or not people drink cow's milk has no effect on my pocketbook. And, as I said earlier, I've presented this info so people can make an informed choice. I've barely scratched the surface on all the research to support my arguments. If you wish to believe that they're half truths: fine - present me with the research to support your arguments.

Ummm....I would think the fact that his father and his father's father being in the beef and dairy business would be enough "research" for you, but that's just my opinion. Just because he doesn't agree with the "logic" (and I use that term loosely here) that you present, doesn't mean he doesn't see it. Making informed choices means assimilating information from CREDIBLE sources and using DISCERNMENT to make an intelligent choice. Seems your "research" lacks credibility and your conclusion lacks discernment. You can find mountains of "research" to support any viewpoint you can possibly imagine, so the volume of your "research" in and of itself means nothing. Not drinking cow's milk isn't going to make anyone live any longer than anyone else.

[chariots]

If you are worried about what milk to drink, if you look hard enought you can find unhomogenized milk in the supermarket. You just have to look for it. Tastes nice it still has the creamy layer on top (Bonus)

[coffee-guy]

YJ - What's your take on this old post?

Seems your "research" lacks credibility and your conclusion lacks discernment. You can find mountains of "research" to support any viewpoint you can possibly imagine, so the volume of your "research" in and of itself means nothing. Not drinking cow's milk isn't going to make anyone live any longer than anyone else.

Anyone have any further input - sounds like this guy just doesn't want anyone to enjoy a cold glass of milk.

[Bouncer]

I never drink milk. Makes me bloated and just gives me a general shitty feeling. Not a fan of milk.

[wnabeabeast]

If you don't wish to see the logic in any of this that's fine, but just because you say it is so, doesn't mean it is so. You have a vested interest in this, I don't. Whether or not people drink cow's milk has no effect on my pocketbook. And, as I said earlier, I've presented this info so people can make an informed choice. I've barely scratched the surface on all the research to support my arguments. If you wish to believe that they're half truths: fine - present me with the research to support your arguments.

Hey I read a research about the bacteria in the air could cause some health problems so should I stop breathing? :D

[coffee-guy]

Hey I read a research about the bacteria in the air could cause some health problems so should I stop breathing? :D

LMAO - :rofl:

[muscle_n_blood]

In my life, I have drank, by a conservative estimate, 3,000 gallons of milk. (I'm 52) Whole milk til I was 21 or 22, 2% or skim since. It has done nothing to harm me, and a lot to help me gain muscle. In fact, I don't grow well without it. I only cut out milk (and all dairy) about 6 weeks pre contest.

[Bouncer]

In my life, I have drank, by a conservative estimate, 3,000 gallons of milk. (I'm 52) Whole milk til I was 21 or 22, 2% or skim since. It has done nothing to harm me, and a lot to help me gain muscle. In fact, I don't grow well without it. I only cut out milk (and all dairy) about 6 weeks pre contest.

lol. there is nothing magic in milk. its proteins, fats, and carbs. if you had never had a drink of milk in your life i can promise you that you would look no different today.

[beefcake]

Both my parents are small, mom is 5' 3" and pops is 5' 5", but somehow I grew to 5' 11". My brother and sister are 5' 9", which makes me wonder, was it the milk we drank at every meal while growing up that made this happen? Who knows.