Whats wrong?

[ManHere1]

Lately When i'n the gym I get extremely cold and feel like throughing up. In fact I do. I can't finish a work out anymore. I haven't gone to the gym in three weeks. I didn't start out right where I left off. Any suggestions as to what's wrong? Im I lacking iron? This is a recent thing. It has never happend to me before.

[YellowJacket]

What are you eating before you hit the gym? or are you?

[ManHere1]

Nothing. Get up and go to the gym first thing in the morning.

[YellowJacket]

Yep, 90% chance thats your problem. No way could I train on an empty stomach (no way would I want to). Cortisol levels go through the roof, etc. Have something, anything before you train. 12oz of orange juice with a scoop of vanilla whey is quick, simple and actually tastes pretty good and its a fairly decent pre workout "meal".

[ManHere1]

Well the funny thing is I have not had this problem ever. This is the first time(s) this has been happening.

[YellowJacket]

Well hopefully your intensity has increased since the beginning of your training, it may be time to alter your diet to accommodate your training intensity.

[sana]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
Yep, 90% chance thats your problem. No way could I train on an empty stomach (no way would I want to). Cortisol levels go through the roof, etc. Have something, anything before you train. 12oz of orange juice with a scoop of vanilla whey is quick, simple and actually tastes pretty good and its a fairly decent pre workout "meal".

i train on an empty stomach at 5:00AM - have been doing it for the past 4 months - and i can say that i haven't experienced any adverse sides. i've gained mass in my shoulders where i was looking to gain - and i've lose bf in perperation for my show.

i don't understand WHY it's bad - especially if it's "okay" to do cardio on an empty stomach, why not train?

[decadecadeca]

I can feel a big difference when I don't eat or if I eat too early before I lift. I try to eat about 1.5 hours before and I feel great, when I don't eat I run out of gas about halfway through my workout. I've tried cardio in the morning on an empty stomach and it didn't seem to effect me at all though.

[ManHere1]

Exactly. I've been this way for years, traing on a empty stomach. Then out of nowhere this happens. It bugs the hell out of me. It's also funny because I'm basically the only one in the gym with a sweater on. I'm hot and sweating and extremely cold at the same time. Even my bottem lip starts to turn white. And then I throw up( of course I got to the bathroom).

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by sana
i train on an empty stomach at 5:00AM - have been doing it for the past 4 months - and i can say that i haven't experienced any adverse sides. i've gained mass in my shoulders where i was looking to gain - and i've lose bf in perperation for my show.

i don't understand WHY it's bad - especially if it's "okay" to do cardio on an empty stomach, why not train?

Cardio vs. weight training taxes different energy systems in the body. Depeding on your type of cardio, hopefully you do not use the aerobic system for weight training. Two main reasons why I personally wouldnt recommend or personally weight train on an empty stomach are:

1. Lack of energy. If I dont eat, Im useless as is the case with most since food = energy. After your body is in a fasting state all night, its essential to refuel before punishing your body again. Im sure we could all make gains if we didnt eat before training, but where would we be if we did eat, and eat properly before weight training.

2. Cortisol. The bodys stress hormone and its catabolic. Vitamins, etc. found in food fight or block cortisol, ie. vitamin C. Insulin is an antagonist to cortisol, thus a carbohydrate mix can also combat cortisol.

There are a few more minor reasons why one should eat before weight training, but these 2 are the predominant reasons.

[decadecadeca]

Cold sweats, nausea and your lips turning sounds like hypoglycemia (low blood sugar) to me.

[sana]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
1. Lack of energy. If I dont eat, Im useless as is the case with most since food = energy. After your body is in a fasting state all night, its essential to refuel before punishing your body again. Im sure we could all make gains if we didnt eat before training, but where would we be if we did eat, and eat properly before weight training.

i was drinking a no carb shake before the gym for about a month and a half and that didn't give me any more or less energy though.

i don't feel stressed, my body doesn't feel overtaxed - i actually wake up after the gym...

i train then do about 45 minutes of cardio after.

this is an extreme right now b/c i'm in contest prep.... but after my show, at the MOST i'll probably just drink a shake before the gym ...

[YellowJacket]

As a side note, cardio on an empty stomach is a thing of the past. Certain wheys, containing high amounts of alphlactabumin, are recommended to speed the fat burning process and to keep the body out of a catabolic state. Of course, a zero carb whey would suffice.

[decadecadeca]

Here ya go, from WebMD if you wanna read more.

Mild hypoglycemia

Symptoms of mild low blood sugar usually develop when blood glucose falls below 60 to 65 mg/dL and may include:

Nausea.
Extreme hunger.
Feeling nervous or jittery.
Cold, clammy, wet skin; excessive sweating not caused by exercise.
A rapid heartbeat (tachycardia).
Numbness or tingling of the fingertips or lips.
Trembling.


Moderate hypoglycemia

If blood sugar continues to fall, the nervous system will be affected. Symptoms usually develop when the blood sugar falls below 50 mg/dL and may include:

Mood changes, such as irritability, anxiety, restlessness, or anger.
Confusion, difficulty in thinking, or inability to concentrate.
Blurred vision, dizziness, or headache.
Weakness, lack of energy.
Poor coordination.
Difficulty walking or talking, such as staggering or slurred speech.
Fatigue, lethargy, or drowsiness.

[ManHere1]

Yup. That sounds like me. Thanks guys. Any good lite meal plan you guys have before I go to the gym other than YellowJackets. Not to big on orange juice. It really drys my throat.