This is how I get 8000 cals a day

[rookie000]

A few Guys on the anabolic forum wanted me to post this so I will do my best. I dont have a whole lot of time so bear with me.

An avarage day consists of(when I work 8:00am-4:00pm)

6:45am Protien shake/w 1 Cup milk +350cals
4 english muffins/w eggs and cheese Approx 900 cals
1 banana 50cals??????I dont really know

Snack between breakfast and first break
Low sodium tristcuits 90cals

First Break 10:30am

Protien shake w/o milk 260cals
Trail mix a handful cals???150+
8 tristcuits 180cals

Snack between lunch

Tristcuits 90cals

Lunch 12:30pm

Pasta 760cals(4 servings w/sauce)
3/4lb steak 720 cals
1/2 protien shake 130 cals

Last break 2:30 pm

Protien shake w/o milk 260cals
Banana 50cals??
1 tin of kippers 130cals

Workout @ 4:30

Weight gainer after workout around 6:30pm
weight gainer 920cals+2cups milk 180cals+2tbs olive oil 240cals= 1340cals

Supper around 8pm.
Hamburger helper 3 servings 990 cals
mixed veggies 20cals

Bedtime
Protien shake w/milk 360cals
Bagel w/peanutbutter 250cals

This is somewhere around 7080cals per day..with 630 grams of protien(I was thinking around 500g...i was wrong)a few things didnt have as many calories as i thought. Sorry if i was misleading. This is when I work 8am-4pm. When i work 4pm-12am and 12am-8am i usually get 1-2 extra meals that day so that might bring it up to 8000cals average. Bodybuilders will probably be shaking their heads at this diet. I am not a bodybuilder I am a strength athlete. This is what it take for me to bulk. I am usually not too concerned about BF during this phase. If there are major things wrong with the diet, I look forward to some feedback.

Thanks

[coffee-guy]

I'm not going to critique your diet as I'm not as familiar with the neccesary componet's for strength as opposed to physique diets but I can tell you that there is no way in hell that your body is absorbing and digesting all of that protein.

I would also venture to say that you could cut out quite a bit of wasteful eating and still get the same results.

I look foward to other people's responses as I am curious the major differences in a strength athlete's diet and a physique building diet.

:hmmm:

[edvedr]

stats?

[edvedr]

NM just saw them in the other thread. if you are really eating that much i say its not needed. your just adding alot of extra fat imo.

[rookie000]

i realize that i am ingesting a little too much protien. I should probably slack back a bit. I am just very anal about making sure there is ALWAYS enough protien in my body for my muscles to use. since every persons requirements are different and from what I have read usage is between 1.2gr per Kg of body weight all the way up to 2.5 gr per lb. I choose to error on the upper side of the requirements. As for wasteful eating, I agree to some extent, any tips or suggestions. The only reason i eat what i eat is because that is what i think i should be eating. What do you think I should cut out/add. I am open for suggestions.

Thanks

[wheyman]

It's really hard for us to give advice b/c most of us are geared towards physique (appearance) rather than strength. You diet does look a LITTLE out of control. I would do without the weight gainer myself. It seems like you are getting enough nutrients through whole food sources to me.

Also throw out the triscuits and remove some of the protein shakes..Way too many imo, you should rely on whole food sources as much as possible. You can substitue with chicken, tuna, turkey, etc..

This is just my opinion.

WM

[edvedr]

yeah thats one thing i would say as well. i put shakes in my diet because i have trouble bulking with all whole foods. i could never eat that much a day. so if you can i would go with all whole foods like whey said.

[coffee-guy]

First of all, too much protein can be stored as fat so you definetly need to find what amount works for your digestive process and stick with that.

Cut out the English Muffins and Cheese and replace that with rolled oats or brown rice but keep the eggs.

I would get rid of the Triscuits and replace those with something with more nutrional value (i.e. vegetables etc).

Replace the Trail Mix with Almonds/Peanuts etc as most Trail Mixes contain junk.

Get rid of the Protein shake with luch as the steak should have plenty to absorb. Move your afternoon (pre-workout) shake to about an hour before your workout (i.e. 3:30) and I'm not sure what a "tin of kippers" (maybe sardines???) are but you need some type of carbs pre-workout as well (throw in a cup of oats in your shake).

I would also cut out the post workout shake that your body is probably not using effectively. Replace that with a protein shake with malto and dextrose (40g each).

Dinner looks o.k. but make sure that you are using ground turkey breast or something similar to avoid the fats. Get rid of the "Hamburger Helper" box meal ingredients and use one of Bouncers recipes etc (Jerk Beef/Chicken or something similar) posted in the Recipe/Nutrition Section. Your goal this late in the evening is to have protein with incidental carbs from the vegetables and to eliminate the fat from this meal. I would also make sure that you are getting good vegetables in with this meal and at least 2 cups.

Replace your bedtime protein shake with cottage cheese and keep the bagel with peanut butter.

Go to www.Fitday.com and it will give you all the information you need to calculate your daily nutritional intake as well as the fact that you can set goals for yourself etc.

Also, you may want to look at your BMR despite the fact that you are training for strength - go here - http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...&highlight=BMR

[rookie000]

thanks for all of your replys. i will def follow the links and take your advice.