Nutrient combinations

[strat_69]

Recently I read that when you consume protein and fats they digest in an acid, where as carbs digest in an alkaline base. How does it work that you eat carbs and protein together and both are digested, to me it seems it would make each one be digested to a lesser degree. Also, this would mean you'd want protein and fat after a workout because the protein would digest more effectively. This is not a good scenario for glycogen stores though is it? Also if insulin comes into play, it is a nutrient transporter so it would transport proteins to cells. Does the stomach just digest one at a time or how does it work I'm really confused on this subject. Hopefully somebody knows more than I do. I appreciate anything anybody can tell me.

[infiniti1982]

Different enzymes digest different nutrients, so yes, your stomach can digest all three macronutrients at once. Accordingly, it does not make sense to just have protein and fat after your workout.

[infiniti1982]

Maybe SeveredTies could bring in some details here, this is his kind of shiat.

[Severedties]

Recently I read that when you consume protein and fats they digest in an acid, where as carbs digest in an alkaline base. How does it work that you eat carbs and protein together and both are digested, to me it seems it would make each one be digested to a lesser degree. Also, this would mean you'd want protein and fat after a workout because the protein would digest more effectively. This is not a good scenario for glycogen stores though is it? Also if insulin comes into play, it is a nutrient transporter so it would transport proteins to cells. Does the stomach just digest one at a time or how does it work I'm really confused on this subject. Hopefully somebody knows more than I do. I appreciate anything anybody can tell me.

Not all food is digested in the stomach. As you know there are other digestive organs, small and large intestine etc. The stomach works at an acidic pH, and has a large role in carbohydrate digestion. The intestines work at a more basic pH, and have a larger role in lipid digestion.

I believe you misread your article. They were probabaly saying that if lipids are included in meals the meals will be digested more slowely. This is common knowledge. Meals with more fat require more time to digest, they however are not digested less effectively. It just takes longer.
Insulin transports glucose to cells, glucose is made from the digestion of fats and carbohydrates. Do not worry about eating both. You digest what you eat, time is a variable, not whether or not you digest all of it. Unless you are sick of course.

Do not eat fat post workout. You need a quick shot of amino acids and glucose, so the most effective choice would be dextrose and whey protein.

Hope that is what you were looking for.

[strat_69]

thank you so much. I am 18 but I've been training for 3 and a half years now, almost two of those with decent nutritional knowledge so please don't think me ignorant. Some reading I did, such as the book the wild physique by vince gironda, among other things, challenged my knowledge I thought I had. I just wanted to figure it out as soon as possible so I don't waste time trying to keep certain things seperate etc. I usually limit fats post workout for a couple hours while I take in a post workout shake and then a solid meal with plenty of carbsand protein, then I bring fats back in as usual.

[Severedties]

I was just attempting to answer your question. I didn't mean to come off as condescending.
I have never heard of that book though. Keep learning bro, that’s what it is all about.

[Shibby]

I would really wait at least until your third meal after working out to add fats in. All depending on what time it is. You get your PWO shake which gives you immidiate nutrition. Then you feed your body whole foods that are still needed pretty soon. You wouldn't want to slow down your stream of protien starting on the next meal.

[strat_69]

severed ties-- I didn't feel as though you were putting me down or anything, I was just kinda giving some more info and stuff.. as always certain subtlties don't quite translate from words and actions to text... oh well I really appreciate your help, so it's all good and thanks everyone else for the help as well, I am always willing to consider different things-- if it works I want to know about it know what I mean?