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  • #16
    Originally posted by fog_hat1981

    As for the no fat/carb/protein meals suggestion - I used to be an advocate of this BUT unless you're running slin I just don't see the point - you're body digests them each in their own way and one doesn't really seem to interfere with the other - I've mixed all three in two different contest diets and one off-season diet with no problems in the bf department - just food for thought......

    Good luck bro....
    I thought it had more to do with how your body will use it versus store it. Not how it processes it... or are we saying the same thing?

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Shibby
      I thought it had more to do with how your body will use it versus store it. Not how it processes it... or are we saying the same thing?
      You mean your body will hold onto the fat if you combine the three instead of keeping them separate?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by fog_hat1981
        You mean your body will hold onto the fat if you combine the three instead of keeping them separate?
        Basically. I know if it's lower than total calories used it still gets used, but the order body uses energy is carbs, protein, fat. So if you mix the two it's going to wait and see if it needs to use the fat or if it can store it.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Shibby
          Basically. I know if it's lower than total calories used it still gets used, but the order body uses energy is carbs, protein, fat. So if you mix the two it's going to wait and see if it needs to use the fat or if it can store it.
          Sure each macronutrient is used differently BUT if you've got a strict diet focusing on maintaining constant blood sugar levels and focusing on keeping your metabolism high then it shouldn't matter - like I originally pointed out the only time it is necessary to separate the two while following a decent bulking/cutting diet would be when insulin sensitivity is a factor (i.e. running exogenous insulin doses OR following a crappy diet that spikes blood sugar levels due to poor carb sources OR PWO when you're purposely spiking blood sugar levels in order to facilitate insulin's "shuttle" factors in muscle nourishment)...

          In other words - if you aren't using slin and you're not considering PWO and your diet is tight (with or without the macronutrients mixed) and you're eating low GI carbs throughout then I see no need for it....

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Shibby
            Basically. I know if it's lower than total calories used it still gets used, but the order body uses energy is carbs, protein, fat. So if you mix the two it's going to wait and see if it needs to use the fat or if it can store it.
            Sonis and I have been under the same impression as well.

            From our experience, we think that works best. It's not so much as the order of how your body uses the source. Moreso, when you're only supplying your body with one energy source at any given meal sitting (fats, carbs), then that is the only body your option has when needing an energy source. So, once the initial source is used, then it's supposed to train the body to go to fat stores faster.

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            • #21
              only about two weeks in. i can already see a difference. my abs are starting to come in and im starting to see a little more vascularity. i just wanted to thank you guys again. i cant wait to see what i look like in another month or so. thanks again ill keep you all posted

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              • #22
                i hvae a another question. on the days that i train after m6 im starving by 7:30pm before my shake. can i add something small here or should i stick it out till 9-9:30 till my shake? and what should i eat.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by qbanplaya56
                  i hvae a another question. on the days that i train after m6 im starving by 7:30pm before my shake. can i add something small here or should i stick it out till 9-9:30 till my shake? and what should i eat.
                  Sure. You could have like chicken or turkey & some veggies....you could even throw in like a 1/2c of rice and eat it all together if you're looking for convenience...

                  It's post workout, so you should be refueling your body anyway. But, since you're trying to lean up I wouldn't go with a calorie packed post workout shake.

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