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    I have been doing more intence cardio in the past month or so and I seem to be loosing even more muscle.
    Would you guys say increase my healty fats or carbs to help save some muscle? right now my guess is im on a 60-20-20 maybe even less with the carbs.
    I dont have a heart rate monitor but id guess it to be around 150-180 for about 2 hours. Thats running sprints, jogging, bag work, thai pads, knee sparring, grapling.

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    how many carbs and fats are your currently getting?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
      how many carbs and fats are your currently getting?
      Damn now I have to go and add it all up. I will get back to you on that. Thanks for the fast responce.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
        Damn now I have to go and add it all up. I will get back to you on that. Thanks for the fast responce.
        this is part of the problem bro. you need to know what you are taking in so you can adjust when your body is losing or gaining..

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        • #5
          Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
          this is part of the problem bro. you need to know what you are taking in so you can adjust when your body is losing or gaining..
          Ya I never realy counted carbs I just went with a feel for it when I was into the bodybuilding thing. Now I am more towards being a cardio machine (for fighting) and it is very different than what I am used to. I need more fuel and not sure if I should get it from carbs or fats? I have my diet posted here witch has changed a bit. I have cals and protien numbers but never bothered to add up the carb or fat numbers. I am gonna add these numbers up and post them tonight.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
            Ya I never realy counted carbs I just went with a feel for it when I was into the bodybuilding thing. Now I am more towards being a cardio machine (for fighting) and it is very different than what I am used to. I need more fuel and not sure if I should get it from carbs or fats? I have my diet posted here witch has changed a bit. I have cals and protien numbers but never bothered to add up the carb or fat numbers. I am gonna add these numbers up and post them tonight.
            i need to know how many proteins, carbs, and fats you are taking in to be able to give you an accurate suggestion.

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            • #7
              meal 1
              6 egg whites2 whole eggs 252 cals 48g protein
              Whey protein, oats, bananna, flax oil, natty PB. 730 cals 66g protein

              Extreame Cardio 2 hours

              meal 2
              Whey, creatine, waxy maize 363 cals 48g protein

              meal 3
              Bison, brown rice, 2 eggs 850 cals 60g protein

              Lift weights

              meal 4
              Whey, creatine, waxy maize 363 cals 48g protein

              meal 5
              dinner? 650-750 cals 50-60g protein

              meal 6
              Casein protein 240cals 48g protein

              total cals=3450
              protein=368

              BMR=2479
              I figure I burn 1000 cals between both my workouts

              what can or should I change up?

              EDIT I forgot to ad that I eat a hand full of cashews and drink a diet monster betwee meal 3 and workout. thats another 170cals
              Last edited by ROCKETW19; 09-29-08, 09:31 PM.

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              • #8
                I have to add up the carbs and fats still but this is still the same diet I have been on execpt cardio is 2 hours monday, tuesday, thursday, friday I probably burn more cals then I guessed at before also?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                  I have to add up the carbs and fats still but this is still the same diet I have been on execpt cardio is 2 hours monday, tuesday, thursday, friday I probably burn more cals then I guessed at before also?
                  what you posted above does not tell me what your eating in detail. for example, it says "dinner?". lmao

                  but if i had to guess i would say for your type of program you need more complex carbs.

                  you really need to take the time to break down carbs, fats, and proteins though.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                    what you posted above does not tell me what your eating in detail. for example, it says "dinner?". lmao

                    but if i had to guess i would say for your type of program you need more complex carbs.

                    you really need to take the time to break down carbs, fats, and proteins though.
                    LOL I put dinner cuzz it is not something I have a set plan for. everthing thing else is laid out. where and what should I add? I wil have the carbs and fats figured out soon so please come back and check this thread.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                      I wil have the carbs and fats figured out soon so please come back and check this thread.
                      once you give me this info i will respond. :)

                      not "Rocket" science rocket. :D

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                      • #12
                        You may be able to counteract a lot of this with more complex carbs DURING exercise - likely in the form of replenishing muscle glycogen through "gatorade-like" substances...

                        See if Nekra or SC can add on this - it has been working for me and others I know - they just may be able to shed more light on the facts/science behind it....

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                          Now I am more towards being a cardio machine (for fighting) and it is very different than what I am used to. I need more fuel and not sure if I should get it from carbs or fats?
                          I'm not 100% on this but is it possible that your body is trying to change because of the intensity and duration of your training........ regardless of your diet.

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                          • #14
                            meal 1
                            6 egg whites2 whole eggs 252 cals 48g protein
                            Whey protein, oats, bananna, flax oil, natty PB.
                            cals-730
                            protein-66
                            carbs-135
                            fat-45

                            Extreame Cardio 2 hours

                            meal 2
                            Whey, creatine, waxy maize
                            cals-363
                            pro-48
                            carbs-63
                            fat-0

                            meal 3
                            Bison, brown rice, 2 eggs
                            cals-850
                            pro-60
                            carbs-95
                            fat-39

                            Lift weights

                            meal 4
                            Whey, creatine, waxy maize
                            cals-363
                            pro-48
                            carbs-63
                            fat-0

                            meal 5
                            dinner?
                            cals-650-750
                            pro-50-60
                            carbs-80-100
                            fat-20-40

                            meal 6
                            Casein protein
                            cals-240
                            pro-48
                            carbs-8
                            fat-1

                            totals
                            cals=3450
                            pro=368
                            carbs=444
                            fat=105

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                              totals
                              cals=3450
                              pro=368
                              carbs=444
                              fat=105
                              that protein/ carb / fat count = 4193 total cals. not sure where you got 3450.

                              if your protein/carb/fat breakdown is correct i dont know what to tell you. you are gettin plenty of carbs and fat.

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