Does soy protein raise estrogen levels? Lets end the debate right now.

[Bouncer]

so this "guru" is anything but then...

does it do anything positive that other proteins dont?

[wnabeabeast]

so this "guru" is anything but then...

does it do anything positive that other proteins dont?

nope! :)

[mormonmuscle]

When I first got into bodybuilding, the only protein I used was soy. I had about 150-200 grams of it a day. I also normally have low testosterone levels and high estrogen levels, and I never got gyno from it. I had that protein for probably 2 years before swtiching to whey. Needless to say whey definately has better muscle building properties than soy. But just to answer your question, I never saw any gyno from that much usage of soy. Hope that helps.:)

[Mr I]

so this "guru" is anything but then...

does it do anything positive that other proteins dont?

probably stops you hurling if your a lactose intollerent or allergic to dairy thats one positive thing, does the chick suffer any those symptoms?

[Bouncer]

probably stops you hurling if your a lactose intollerent or allergic to dairy thats one positive thing, does the chick suffer any those symptoms?

its a dude he recommended this to! lol

no stomach problems at all.

[NYCmitch25]

T-Nation article on soy - T-Nation.com | Evils of Soy

[Bouncer]

T-Nation article on soy - T-Nation.com | Evils of Soy

fuck, going by that article, soy is fucken poison.

[bigscott]

its a dude he recommended this to! lol

no stomach problems at all.

todd had my buddy switch over to soy for the last show he did he came in very well -

with that said he had a girl i know do the same getting her ready for a figure contest and all she did was cramp and bloat from it -- dropped it and went back to whey -

imo the benefits of soy are way over hyped and have no place in bodybuilding -

i will have a diet setup by todd so will be interested in seeing if he puts soy in as i get close to show time

[Bouncer]

todd had my buddy switch over to soy for the last show he did he came in very well -

with that said he had a girl i know do the same getting her ready for a figure contest and all she did was cramp and bloat from it -- dropped it and went back to whey -

imo the benefits of soy are way over hyped and have no place in bodybuilding -

i will have a diet setup by todd so will be interested in seeing if he puts soy in as i get close to show time

see, there is something to this. why whould these diet gurus be pushing soy if it was so bad.

ask him what exactly he suggest soy for.

[bigscott]

see, there is something to this. why whould these diet gurus be pushing soy if it was so bad.

ask him what exactly he suggest soy for.

i will and let you know his take on it

[Stonecold54]

so does it have any benefit then? why the hell would this guys suggest soy to my buddy.

because like the dairy "conglormerate" soy has their own lobby that pushes their shit product and are probably paying someone to push their shit

[Bouncer]

because like the dairy "conglormerate" soy has their own lobby that pushes their shit product and are probably paying someone to push their shit

this guy is a bodybuilding diet guy. not some tree hugger dude.