Do you ever find it hard to keep up with bbing diets

[Mr I]

I had just got my head around trying not to spike your insulin around the time of fat ingestion, and then

FLEX Magazine September 2009 Issue;

There is an article called "Eat like a Pro: seven meals. Over 7,000 calories. One goal. An inside look at the offseason eating plan designed to help Jay Cutler reassert his grip on the Sandow" consist of Jay Cutler's off-season meal plans.

Where the fun starts;

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MEAL 7:
2 In-N-Out Burger 4x4 burgers with 1 slice of cheese each, no salt, grilled onions and ketchup onlyFries, well done, no saltSmall lemonade
TOTALS: 1,980 calories, 105 g protein, 172 g carbs, 90 g fat

JAY SAYS: "I have this meal pretty much every night that I'm home in the offseason. I want to sleep with a full stomach. Precontest, I'll eliminate the burgers, but I'll wake up to eat once or twice a night. I never sleep a standard eight hours."

STOPPANI SAYS:
"The fat in the French fries will actually help to slow down the normally fast-digesting carbs in the fries and keep insulin levels low. High insulin levels at this hour of the day will do more damage than the fat from this meal. Plus, the fat will help to slow down the digestion of the beef, so he has a longer supply of amino acids to prevent muscle breakdown while he sleeps through the night."


So lets recap;

*Largest meal in the day just before the bed. 2000cals
*French fries is good for you because it helps to slow down the digestion
*French fries good for you to keep insulin levels low
*High insulin levels before bed time will damage your muscle gains so eat junk food prior to bedtime
*Regardless to the trans fat or EFA's, eat fat to slow down digestion and prevent muscle breakdown

and Jay supports this and says " I have this meal pretty much every night that I'm home in the offseason

[dna9488]

This sounds like a bunch of shit honestly. I mean if you're pumping several amounts of GH and AAS in your system, you can pretty much eat this and not get fat. On top of the, Cutler's genetics are insane.

[Mr I]

I'm sure your right DNA but this is just one example of how much shit we are battered with from these so called bodybuilding magazines which are litle more than photoshoots and advertisements with some bullshit thrown in. Certainly not educational.

I mean to say that eating fat slows down a normally fast digesting carb and thus prevent it from spiking insulin is pretty much the reverse of the Palumbo diet logic where you avoid eating high carbs with fats because the only way the body can store fat is through insulin.

It just boggles the mind

[Bouncer]

anything flex magaizne says.. do the opposite. lol

[dna9488]

I'm sure your right DNA but this is just one example of how much shit we are battered with from these so called bodybuilding magazines which are litle more than photoshoots and advertisements with some bullshit thrown in. Certainly not educational.

I mean to say that eating fat slows down a normally fast digesting carb and thus prevent it from spiking insulin is pretty much the reverse of the Palumbo diet logic where you avoid eating high carbs with fats because the only way the body can store fat is through insulin.

It just boggles the mind

Yea man. We also need to think logically about this and have some common sense. While i was reading that meal right before yous sleep, I had a dozen red flags in my mind go up.

First of all we know how our own body reacts to certain foods.

Second, to try something like this is beyond me. I can understand a burger with no bun, but a god damn meal with fries and a lemonade is going far.


Plus a lot of these magazines are full of shit. Take it with a grain of salt and move on

[Mr I]

Yea man. We also need to think logically about this and have some common sense. While i was reading that meal right before yous sleep, I had a dozen red flags in my mind go up.

First of all we know how our own body reacts to certain foods.

Second, to try something like this is beyond me. I can understand a burger with no bun, but a god damn meal with fries and a lemonade is going far.


Plus a lot of these magazines are full of shit. Take it with a grain of salt and move on

you mean a pinch of salt, thats the saying 'take it with a pinch of salt' no a fucking grain! god dam Americans never get it right:rofl:

[Bouncer]

you mean a pinch of salt, thats the saying 'take it with a pinch of salt' no a fucking grain! god dam Americans never get it right:rofl:

a "pinch" is many grains of salt.

[dna9488]

you mean a pinch of salt, thats the saying 'take it with a pinch of salt' no a fucking grain! god dam Americans never get it right:rofl:

pinch and grain are the same, so shut up :D

You know what i mean though.

[alwaysgrowing]

When pros try to bulk, I can see them doing this. With how much shit they put in their bodies, the more calories the better. HGH and t3 will help prevent too much fat gain from it

[decadecadeca]

Flex magazine is full of shit would be my guess. I'd be surprised if they even talked to Cutler for that article. Ten bucks says they write a bunch of crap then just drop a pros name in the middle. This week it's Jay next week it's someone else.

Either way, I don't have his genetics, his drug plan, his metabolism, etc....

I don't give a fuck what he eats or how he sleeps because it doesn't apply to me.

[alwaysgrowing]

I don't give a fuck what he eats or how he sleeps because it doesn't apply to me.

:thumup::thumup:

[Scrumhalf]

The notion that you need a steady stream of amino acids to counter muscle breakdown during your sleep is laughable. Muscle does not catabolize like that - it is just another marketing ploy to push whatever "slow release amino acid" mumbo-jumbo based product they are hawking.

Just have the 1.5g/lb of protein or whatever and quit worrying about hour-by-hour optimization of protein ingestion.