Clean Bulk - your experience?

[Scrumhalf]

How many calories above maintenance have any of you targeted above maintenance level? I am particularly interested in anyone who has bulked while natty and achieved this without fat gain.

I am shooting for a couple hundred calories above maintenance and gaining weight steadily but I am still gaining a little bit of subcutaneous fat.

Is LISS cardio sufficient to keep the fat off while still gaining weight? And no Bouncer, don't recommend hormonas.. not yet. :)

[Bouncer]

Without hormona its very hard to bulk without adding some fat.

[Scrumhalf]

Damn.. don't wanna get fat.. :fight: