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[TC63]

I don't think it makes too much difference, at least 4 vs. 6 meals. I am sure eating all your calories in 1 meal is not recommended, nor would it be possible, but the eating 8 or 10 times a day stuff is just rubbish. I think that if you eat say 4 times a day sensibly, you'll be just fine.

The other bro science notion that you can only ingest 30 or 40g of protein per meal is also bunk. Also not true is the idea that you will waste away if you don't wake up in the night to eat food, or that the body needs to be filled with food first thing in the morning because it has been starving and hence eating up all your precious muscle all night long.

The fact of the matter is that insulin response is a highly evolved and sophisticated negative feedback scheme and the body will adjust in a very efficient way the right amount of insulin at the right time. It doesn't need any help from us.

Also, metabolism is a long term process, over 72 hours. Not eating overnight is going to do NOTHING to the metabolism. If you don't eat for 4 days, then yes, the bdoy may start to break down muscle for energy, but otherwise, it makes no difference. That's why protein calculations over less than a day, say meal to meal, is ludicrous. As long as you get the right amount of protein over a 2-3 day average, you'll be just fine.

You're on point with the statement above. I, as I'm sure others as well, used to have the eat at least 6 times a day as common sense - not sure where this all started.

Here's a quote that I found that supports what you just said:

You’ve probably heard that eating smalls meals throughout the day ‘stokes the metabolic fire’ or is the ideal way to eat in order to control cravings and blood sugar; as consequence, this should also be the ideal way to eat for fat burning purposes. This belief is partly based on a gross and blatantly incorrect interpretation of research concerning TEF (Thermic Effect of Food).

The problem here is that the research has been presented in such a way that it has lead people to believe that the net effect of TEF of several small meals would be greater than that of a few, large meals.

TEF is directly proportional to the calories contained in the meal you just ate (ref). Assuming a diet of 2400 calories, with the same macronutrient composition, eating six small meals of 400 calories or three big meals of 800 calories, TEF will be exactly the same at the end of the day.

So, while eating several small meals a day will per definition ‘keep the metabolic furnace burning’, three big meals will ‘keep the metabolic furnace blasting’.

From Martin over at leangains.com from one of his articles (which is also an excerpt from his new upcoming book).


btw, where did B disappear to?

[Bouncer]

LOL. Why people feel the need to make dieting so complicated is beyond me.

Guys, it's very simple. Know the calories you are putting in your body, evaluate and adjust as you go, listen to what the mirror tells you. That's it. That is my "secret".

I will never understand why people can't seem to grasp this simple concept.

OR, maybe I should write a book and use words like "insulin response", "thermic effect", and "carb manipulation", in order to confuse people with bullshit and make some $$$..

[FitnessBrat]

I don't know who "guys" or "people" are, but the thread was originally mine and I stated I DO indeed know HOW to eat.

[Bouncer]

I don't know who "guys" or "people" are, but the thread was originally mine and I stated I DO indeed know HOW to eat.

I am well aware of who's thread it is. Might want to take a look at who responded when you originally made it. I am addressing the discussion that has taken place since TC63 bumped it.

Thanks for the attitude though, wouldn't seem right if you didn't give it to me at least once a week.

[FitnessBrat]

I am well aware of who's thread it is. Might want to take a look at who responded when you originally made it. I am addressing the discussion that has taken place since TC63 bumped it.

Thanks for the attitude though, wouldn't seem right if you didn't give it to me at least once a week.

Once a week? I can't even recall the last time you were around.

[Scrumhalf]

I am well aware of who's thread it is. Might want to take a look at who responded when you originally made it. I am addressing the discussion that has taken place since TC63 bumped it.

Fighting bro science is my mission on this shit site! :cool:

[TC63]

LOL. Why people feel the need to make dieting so complicated is beyond me.

Guys, it's very simple. Know the calories you are putting in your body, evaluate and adjust as you go, listen to what the mirror tells you. That's it. That is my "secret".

I will never understand why people can't seem to grasp this simple concept.

OR, maybe I should write a book and use words like "insulin response", "thermic effect", and "carb manipulation", in order to confuse people with bullshit and make some $$$..

:rofl:
Thats how you make it rainnn

[swollman77]

i am off on the chicken. every site says something different, just looked on the back of my chicken and its 100 cals per 4oz serving.

so 5oz chicken = 125-135 cals.

Hey bouncer I have noticed this conflict with nutirtional facts and chicken as well. The USDA and nutritionalfacts.com both have each ounce of chicken breast at about 8 grams; however when I look at the label on the chicken I buy it is about 6.25 grams per ounce. Any idea what is closer or is it just knitt picking at that point?

[monster70k]

Hey bouncer I have noticed this conflict with nutirtional facts and chicken as well. The USDA and nutritionalfacts.com both have each ounce of chicken breast at about 8 grams; however when I look at the label on the chicken I buy it is about 6.25 grams per ounce. Any idea what is closer or is it just knitt picking at that point?

If you buy chicken - whether it is prepackaged or from the butcher block at the store - it will have nutritional info. Use that. It is all different, because some chickens are leaner than others - and that matters because fat=weight=less weight of protein in a portion of chicken.

The other thing: if you buy prepackaged, I always get the chicken breast tenders. They are trimmed already of most fat, and usually have 75% less fat than the boneless breasts, so less weight goes to fat and more goes to protein, so your protein per $ and portion size is consequently better as well as less fat consumed which is always good.

[swollman77]

If you buy chicken - whether it is prepackaged or from the butcher block at the store - it will have nutritional info. Use that. It is all different, because some chickens are leaner than others - and that matters because fat=weight=less weight of protein in a portion of chicken.

The other thing: if you buy prepackaged, I always get the chicken breast tenders. They are trimmed already of most fat, and usually have 75% less fat than the boneless breasts, so less weight goes to fat and more goes to protein, so your protein per $ and portion size is consequently better as well as less fat consumed which is always good.

That is really helpful. Thank you for clearing that up.

[redback]

Hi Brat,
Besides having balanced diet meals, engage yourself in regular physical activities to burn fat, boost metabolism and maintain healthy body weight and lifestyle.

Yeh I'm sure she's never thought of that