BACKLOADING CARBS

[convictmuscle]

I'm interested to hear the different opinions regarding backloading carbs. This is something I'm considering but the evening carb loading goes against everything I know. Pizza and other shit foods at night? No carbs preworkout?? No Breakfast other than shake??

GUIDE: Getting Ripped With Carb Back Loading | Cut and Jacked

[Bouncer]

Nonsense. Getting shredded is about diet/cardio/training consistency. I don't buy into gimmicks or tricks.

If you need help setting up a real diet let me know.

[convictmuscle]

Hey B,
Some help/advice would be appreciated. Read below for what I currently consume in a day when I’m trying to get lean. My day starts at 5:30am and ends between 10 to 11pm. I know, not enough sleep...

Meal 1: 5:30am - protein shake

About 20 minutes later

Meal 2: One pack of Steel Cut Oats and Banana

Meal 3: 8am – 1 can of spicy tuna and 1 whole egg

Meal 4: 9am - SAME AS MEAL 3

Meal 5: Noon – 1 chicken breast and 1 cup of basmati rice

Meal 6: 3 – 4pm SAME AS MEAL 3 and 4

Meal 7: 5:30pm - SAME AS MEAL 5

WORKOUT: 7pm

PWO supps: 8:30pm – ISOLATE and Vitargo OR same as meal 5 and 7 if I’m sick of wasting money on supps

Meal 8: 10pm - 1 Cup of cottage cheese

I also snack on almond between meals throughout the day.

On non-workout days it’s the same thing except no carbs.

I'm 5'9" - 195lbs Not sure about BF but I would guess around 12 - 14%?. Top abs are starting to show again.

[Bouncer]

Hey B,
Some help/advice would be appreciated. Read below for what I currently consume in a day when I’m trying to get lean. My day starts at 5:30am and ends between 10 to 11pm. I know, not enough sleep...

Meal 1: 5:30am - protein shake

About 20 minutes later

Meal 2: One pack of Steel Cut Oats and Banana

Meal 3: 8am – 1 can of spicy tuna and 1 whole egg

Meal 4: 9am - SAME AS MEAL 3

Meal 5: Noon – 1 chicken breast and 1 cup of basmati rice

Meal 6: 3 – 4pm SAME AS MEAL 3 and 4

Meal 7: 5:30pm - SAME AS MEAL 5

WORKOUT: 7pm

PWO supps: 8:30pm – ISOLATE and Vitargo OR same as meal 5 and 7 if I’m sick of wasting money on supps

Meal 8: 10pm - 1 Cup of cottage cheese

I also snack on almond between meals throughout the day.

On non-workout days it’s the same thing except no carbs.

I'm 5'9" - 195lbs Not sure about BF but I would guess around 12 - 14%?. Top abs are starting to show again.

Are you willing to experiment? There are 2 groups of people when it comes to dieting. High Carb/Low Fat and High Fat/Low Carb. You need to find out which group you fall under.

To find out which one is better for you, run each type of diet for 1 month and evaluate. Start out with the high carb/low fat. That way, I don't have to type up a whole new diet for you. After a month is up switch over to high fat/low carb, I will setup a diet for you when the time comes.

If you haven't seen my current diet, here it is. Adjust down for your weight as necessary. http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...ntal-diet-plan

[convictmuscle]

I've actually experimented with both and unfortunately I believe when it comes to getting lean I'm better with less carbs and higher fats. Which sucks cause I love the carbs.

[jack tors]

What's your bf %

[convictmuscle]

I'm not exactly sure as I don't trust the bf scales and haven't tried the calipers. I usually just go by what I see in the mirror. I'd say I'm still double digits, 12% maybe? Top abs are coming in

[convictmuscle]

I'll PM you a pic...let me know what you think I'm at.

BTW...I'm not easily offended so don't hold back! lol

[convictmuscle]

Can't PM pics?? or am I just an idiot??

[Bouncer]

How seriously have you experimented with both diet types? I am talking consistency here. Same meals, same times, all day everyday, no cheat meals for a month. That is the only way you will be able to truly determine wtf is going on.

Instead of sending your pic to someone who may or may not have a clue, I would suggest you take a look at this and guesstimate yourself.

[convictmuscle]

I hear ya B. Consistency is key. I'm 100% consistent with the diet above with the exception of 1 cheat meal a week.

I won't have a problem with sticking to this as I'm dedicated to learning what my body reacts best too.

However, I would prefer to start with the high fat, low carb diet first. I seem to put on weight easily but staying lean (single digits) has always been difficult as an adult.

Regarding the diet above, maybe I can cut the carbs with the exception of PWO and add some more fats throughout the day (Fish caps)for this experiment. A few more chicken breast wouldn't hurt either.

[Bouncer]

Regarding the diet above, maybe I can cut the carbs with the exception of PWO and add some more fats throughout the day (Fish caps)for this experiment. A few more chicken breast wouldn't hurt either.

Do you have a breakdown of the numbers in your diet? How much protein/carbs/fats? Total cals? Can't be lazy with it and guess. You need to have a firm idea of what you are taking in so you can adjust up or down depending on the goal. Its easy to manipulate your body when you have a firm understanding of what you are putting into it. Take the time to figure out your numbers and post them.

[convictmuscle]

Total numbers for the day as of recent are:

Protein = 277
Carbs = 135
Fat = 49
Cals = 2137

Meal 1: 5:30am - protein shake

Meal 2: 8am – 1 can of spicy tuna and 1 whole hard boiled egg

Meal 3: 9am - SAME AS MEAL 2

Meal 4: Noon – 1 chicken breast and mixed veggies

Meal 5: 3 – 4pm SAME AS MEAL 2 and 3

Meal 6: 5:30pm - SAME AS MEAL 4

WORKOUT: 7pm

PWO supps: 8:30pm – ISOLATE and Vitargo


Meal 7: 9:30pm - Chicken breast and 2 cups of rice with hot sauce

I also snack on almonds between meals 2 and 6

Goal is to cut bf in half and hold as much muscle mass as possible of course.

[convictmuscle]

I weight train heavy and hard religiously 5 days a week. I'm just starting to introduce 30 min of cardio post weight training. I will also do 30 - 40 min cardio on my weight training off days.

[Bouncer]

Total numbers for the day as of recent are:

Protein = 277
Carbs = 135
Fat = 49
Cals = 2137

How long have you been consistently doing this? What has your progress been? If you are seeing slow and steady improvements then you are on the right track. Soon as you hit a wall, add or decrease the cals by 200 per day. People make the mistake of making big changes to fast, this is a huge mistake.