Carbohydrate timing?

[AvidFisherman]

I have been reading a bit on timing my carbohydrate consumption. I am trying to keep my carbohydrates around 150g per day. I was taking them in randomly but now I am thinking I should take in 25% in the morning, 35% before weight training, 25% after weight training and 15% through out the day via vegetable consumption.

So, I will take in around 40g of carbs for breakfast, 50g of carbs before working out and 40g of carbs post working out. Supposedly this will increase my insulin production at times where my body is stressed and help promote muscle-growth and fat-loss.

Do any of you implement anything like this?

[chuckz28]

I'm not a fan of insulin spikes tbh. Unless it is exogenous you're putting a load on the pancreas doing so and it makes me feel like shit. As long as you are hitting your numbers for the day I wouldn't concern myself with timing too much. The minor difference would be neglegable and not proportionate to the effort required to nail those percents.

[Bouncer]

Considering I have the same meals all day I keep it the same throughout. Around 60 grams of carbs per meal.

[Herc]

Considering I have the same meals all day I keep it the same throughout. Around 60 grams of carbs per meal.

You never change things out. Like maybe turkey or beef? Rice instead of oats?

[Bouncer]

Almost never. There is the occasional beef instead of chicken or rice instead of oats but that's something like one meal every 2 weeks.

[Scrumhalf]

Doesn't matter too much until you get into the low double digits. After that, it can become very important especially if you are natty.

[AvidFisherman]

Doesn't matter too much until you get into the low single digits. After that, it can become very important especially if you are natty.

I was wondering if I would even be able to tell a difference at my bf%.

[Scrumhalf]

I was wondering if I would even be able to tell a difference at my bf%.

Not the kind of tweaking you are talking about. If you are talking about keto or any sort of protein sparing modified fast (PSMF) diets with weekly refeeds, then definitely yes.

[AvidFisherman]

Yeah, I tried keto, it made me feel pretty sluggish. I got into ketosis a couple times but I couldn't keep in it for some reason?

[Scrumhalf]

Yeah, I tried keto, it made me feel pretty sluggish. I got into ketosis a couple times but I couldn't keep in it for some reason?

Yeah, keto is hard. Did you ever get Lyle McDonald's Rapid Fat Loss? You may want to get a copy of that protocol. Just like any low carb calorie restrictive diet, it is brutal and miserable and will test your willpower. But it is extremely effective.

[AvidFisherman]

I downloaded a copy of it and read most of it plus some other sources.

Scrum, what do you set your macros at while on keto, I'm sure your carbs are 5% or lower but what about your fat and protein? I assume you do the cyclical version? Also, I have heard mixed reports of excess protein being turned into glucose and kicking you out of ketosis, do you have an opinion on this?

[AvidFisherman]

"Protein can be turned into glucose via a process called gluconeogenesis and excessive protein consumption can prevent you from getting into ketosis."

[Bouncer]

Aim for 250 grams of protein, 150 grams of carbs, and 50 grams of fat. Comes out to 2050 cals per day. Space it out evenly over 4-5 meals.

Really is that simple. Your a person that likes to get into the details and I can understand that but trust my experience when I tell you to keep things simple and execute them with consistency. You are getting lost in details that will make very little difference. Do not concern yourself with protein preventing ketosis and other rubbish like that. Worry about small details once you have refined your body. Only then will you notice the small little touches like carb timing etc..

At the moment you are like a lawn that needs mowing and your walking around with nose hair trimmers worrying about an individual blade of grass. Step back and look clearly, toss the god damn trimmers in the trash and get the god damn mower out and get to work.

Don't piss me off bro. Tired of your lollygaggen!

[AvidFisherman]

I'm like a kid in a candy store, so many different methodologies out there and I want to try them all. But right now I'm currently running something very close to what you suggested.

[rado]

I was gonna say the same thing not long ago; keep it simple man. Stop trying to be all thechnical and shit. If you're questioning your diet, then don't eat it. Chicken, red meat(sparingly), fish and veggies....carbs? Quinoa or cous cous, quinoa is better with high protein and high fiber for your ass, no pun :D

Sweets? Peanut butter with a tad bit of honey, good stuff....spread it on Ezekiel bread or your woman's ass and go to town:) buy some grounded chicken and make chicken burgers, I do all the time. Look at my thread on foods and you'll see even though it's redundant, it takes dedication to make the good clean meals and keep it like clock work.