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  • chuckz28
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    I guess the biggest issue is that it accumulates in cells and is more rapidly absorbed than amino acids which causes the buildup of formaldehyde. I don't know. I'm not a scientist but the stuff scares me. It was created from the fecal matter of genetically modified ecoli bacteria for fucks sake. Gross.

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  • jack tors
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    diet coke is horrible for you because its soda either way

    Artificial Sweetener: Splenda Replacing Aspartame in Soda

    I cant find the study but I remember recently they found that it is worse in terms of losing weight then drinks with real sugar in them. they never knew why until this recent study glucose or insulin spike I'm guessing I cant remember...

    I had this bad habit for ever... find a brand of water you like get it ice cold or however you like it and don't look back... filled with ice and a lemon or two I'm good.. love it

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  • chuckz28
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    Lots of studies here
    Recent Independent Aspartame Research Results (1998 - 2007)

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  • jack tors
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    Artificial sweeteners and other sugar substitutes - Mayo Clinic

    "But according to the National Cancer Institute and other health agencies, there's no sound scientific evidence that any of the artificial sweeteners approved for use in the U.S. cause cancer or other serious health problems. And numerous research studies confirm that artificial sweeteners are generally safe in limited quantities, even for pregnant women. As a result of the newer studies, the warning label for saccharin was dropped."

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  • Bouncer
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    So hold on here. The idea is that aspartame breaks down into methanol which breaks down into formaldehyde.

    The thing is Chuck, many natural substances we consume break down into methanol.

    That link claims that other natural things that break down into methanol have "protective barriers" but alludes to the fact that somehow the methanol breakdown from aspartame does not have these "protective barriers".

    My question for that claim is once again where is the proof? You can't make a claim that the menthol breakdown and conversion to formaldehyde is somehow different from other products we consume without any evidence.

    Where is the evidence that shows the breakdown process from aspartame into methanol does not have the same protective barriers that other natural substances do?

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  • chuckz28
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    Noted:
    The calculated level of formaldehyde exposure is approximately
    61.3 mg (milligrams) for every liter of aspartame ingested. That
    is over twice the level necessary to cause irreversible genetic
    damage in humans and several times the level shown to cause
    chronic neurological, cardiovascular, musculoskeletal, and
    other symptoms in long-term industrial exposure research.

    That's FDA.gov

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  • chuckz28
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    https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...aZpcBcsAlPYjfw

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  • convictmuscle
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    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    Grilled meat is also a carcinogen...

    We need to keep things in context because if we dont we can literally point to a negative health effect of every single thing we do in life. People tend to dwell on something specific and make it much bigger than it really is IMO.

    P.S. the day I stop grilling meat is the day I change my name to Nancy and go on an anti steroid crusade...

    LMFAO! Love it.......

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
    I'd take burnt grilled meat over formaldehyde any day but I hear you.
    See but your focused on something specific and in your mind your body is all the sudden a formaldehyde machine the second you sip some diet tea. I highly doubt it.

    Show me the study on that? The actual study of how much formaldehyde is formed and how that compares to other things we consume.

    Chuck if protein itself broke down into miniscule amount of formaldehyde would you stop consuming protein? Fish oil has a tiny amount of Mercury which is a poison better give up fish... see what I'm saying?

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  • chuckz28
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    I'd take burnt grilled meat over formaldehyde any day but I hear you.

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
    Yeah you can find stuff on either side. Aspartame breaks down and some of it is converted into formaldehyde which is a known carcinogen according to this doctor.

    Dr. Woody Monte on the Dangers of Aspartame
    Grilled meat is also a carcinogen...

    We need to keep things in context because if we dont we can literally point to a negative health effect of every single thing we do in life. People tend to dwell on something specific and make it much bigger than it really is IMO.

    P.S. the day I stop grilling meat is the day I change my name to Nancy and go on an anti steroid crusade...

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  • chuckz28
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    Yeah you can find stuff on either side. Aspartame breaks down and some of it is converted into formaldehyde which is a known carcinogen according to this doctor.

    Dr. Woody Monte on the Dangers of Aspartame

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  • Bouncer
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    According to this there really is no solid conclusive evidence that aspartame is as bad as claimed by some people.

    Each section has a brief "bottom line" segment. Read those.

    https://authoritynutrition.com/aspartame-good-or-bad/

    Certain things we know beyond a shadow of a doubt is bad for us. Too much sugar, processed foods, smoking etc...

    Other things have a myth of being bad without conclusive evidence. MSG is a big one. You know MSG has never been proven to be unhealthy? I believe aspartame to be in this category. People simply hear a constant negative connection and pretty soon they believe it as fact because everyone says so. But if you look at what the actual scientific community is saying you get a different answer. I follow the science.

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  • convictmuscle
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    The big thing is aspartame bro....if I believe what I read I should stop drinking the shit now lol.

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by convictmuscle View Post
    B, I agree with you that it doesn't hinder the results when trying to get shredded BUT it's more the long term health issues I was considering......
    like what specifically bro? ill try to dig up some studies on specific things and see whats what.

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