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  • M1t/4ad cycle final results

    I did 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off/ 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
    Weeks 1-2
    M1t @ 10mg ED / 4ad trandermal 600mg ED
    Weeks 3
    Nolva 40mg / ZMA
    Week4
    Nolva 20mg / ZMA
    Week 5-6
    M1t @ 15mg ED / 4ad 600mg ED
    Week 7
    Nolva 40mg / ZMA / 6-oxo 400mg
    Week 8
    Nolva 30mg / ZMA / 6-oxo 200mg
    Week 9
    Nolva 20mg / ZMA / 6-oxo 200mg

    Start/Current/Best
    Weight - 149/159/162
    Arms - 13"/14.5"/14.5"
    Bench - 185x5, 205x2, 215x1 / 185x12, 205x7, 225x3
    Squat - 225x8 / 365x10 to parallel b/c of knee problems
    Deads - 275x4, 365x2

    Overall a successful cycle. Possible repeat in the future unless I do a Methyl-D, M4OHN cycle instead.
    Just wanted to share the results, if anyone has any questions, I'd be glad to try and answer them.

  • #2
    Couple questions...

    Did you get more hair growth? Any problems with acne?

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    • #3
      I didn't have any extra hair growth, had acne only during the 2nd PCT. I think the 6-oxo caused it b/c i had no acne through the entire cycle until the last 2 weeks. Acne's fine now though, under control in less than a week. Other than that, absolutely no sides. I took taurine @ 1g per day and Milk Thistle @ 2g per day @ lunch time, dosed the m1t and the 4ad in the morning and at night.

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      • #4
        Is it better to spread out the dosages of m1t and 4-ad? I do the full dosage in the morning.

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        • #5
          It's better to spread the dosage out, especially w/ the m1t because it's oral and has a half-life of only about 5 hours or so. If you dose it all at once, the levels will not remain constant in your body. The 4ad you can get away w/ I guess, only if it's transdermal b/c it has a half-life of about 12 hours. I would still spread the dosage out though to make sure I was getting the full effect of the meds I was taking.

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          • #6
            Wow! Those are incredible gains was this your first cycle?

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            • #7
              did you have blood work done pre/during/post cycle? i'd be curious as to how your liver values were affected.

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              • #8
                This was my first PH cycle and I didn't have blood work done. My blood pressure rose about 5 points systolic and diastolic. I took loads of milk thistle throughout, more than 2 grams per day. Since I took 2 on/ 2 off, etc, i doubt any damage could have occurred.

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                • #9
                  The reason I was wondering if this was your first cycle is because I had great gains my first cycle with 4ad. I then waited 8 weeks ran another one had gains but no where near as good. I think your body may recognize the prohormones on following cycles and not convert them to the target hormone. That was a well planned out cycle for your first one. As far as MDien goese my experience is it will not give you big gains but an increase in vascularity and hardness I liked it because I was cutting at the time and it worked well. I took it at 6mg a day this was a good dose for me. Good luck on yor next cycle. Also have you been lifting long?

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                  • #10
                    Yeah I think if I use the M-Dien I can get some good lean gains, stack it w/ m4ohn and possibly lead the cycle off w/ a week of m1t to get some mass in there too. I've been lifting for exactly a year.

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                    • #11
                      Thats a lot of methyls to be putting in your body. I hope you've got a strong liver. I'm Jealous I wish I could up my squat 140lbs in 8 weeks. Growin at that rate think of where you could be with in a few years. Youd be frigin huge.

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                      • #12
                        Yeah I would be huge, but I know better than to think I would ever continue growing at that rate. The reason my squat increased so much can also be attributed to the fact that I neglected legs alot which is a huge mistake for anyone.

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