M1t Is a Joke! Why? Nelson Montana said so....

[YellowJacket]

Priceless, does anyone pay attention to this mindless rambling anymore?

http://www.steroidology.com/forum/sh...threadid=42724

[Cogar]

Although I seldom agree with Nelson, M 1-T is inferior to standard gear, which is why no one used it until its recent "introduction." It does work, but the sides are so numerous and affect such a high percentage of users that there is no way a regular pharmaceutical company would have released it.

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by Cogar
but the sides are so numerous and affect such a high percentage of users that there is no way a regular pharmaceutical company would have released it.

Based on? Your own independent studies? or opinion? Ah, I think the latter.

[MuGGsy]

I've never had any sides on M1T and I'd say 80% of the people on these boards don't report anything the occasional person suffers from the lethargy.

[Primal Instinct]

I have done a few cycles of M-1T and or me it was a bit of lethargy which I allieviated by adding in a little bit of 4AD. I also had some elevation in my BP, in which case I took hawthorne berry to combat that. I was only on a 4week cycle 10mg weeks 1-3 and 15mg max dosage on the last week. A bit of painful lower back pump too but nothing that I couln't live with. I wouldn't stay on for more than 4 weeks continuously though. Gotta rest that liver and renal system ;)

[porterhouse]

what were your gains like?

[Timma]

I'm on my first cycle of m1t now and I have no complaints. In the beginning I did have some lower back pain but that is gone. I don't really have any lethargy. I'm running a 4 week cycle, 10mg each week. During the 4th week I may increase to 15mg to see how it goes. I am noticing some big gains now, fuller muscles.

[lxorl]

i usually run M1t 2 on 2 off... no real sides... put on a few lb

[r_deese]

I had no sides, besides mild aggression. Gained 13 lbs. Now 5 weeks off, I still have 9/13 lbs, and I haven't been eating well or drinking my protein shakes, like I should be. I think it's a solidly working compound. Granted not as good as real gear, but effective none the less.

[speedracer59]

Im on it now. Ive gained 10lbs in 8 days. A little lethargy and a stiff lower back is all the sides Ive noticed.

[Cogar]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
Based on? Your own independent studies? or opinion? Ah, I think the latter.

You post a lot, YJ. Perhaps you should read more. People have reported lower back pain, lethargy, nausea, headaches, elevated blood pressure, shortness of breath, insomnia and a host of other sides in most forums. Any commercial medicine with problems like that would have been withdrawn from the market and been subjected to a number of lawsuits.

[GearTripper]

Originally posted by Cogar
.....Any commercial medicine with problems like that would have been withdrawn from the market and been subjected to a number of lawsuits.

just curious if you know what the reported "KNOWN" side-effects are for asprin, advil, viagra, cialis, tums, tylenol, etc... just to name a few. all commerical medicines with literally tons of known side-effects on the market today. so that part of your statement is bogus :)

[GearTripper]

on a side note, i'm not for or against m1t as i've never researched it.

[spidey]

Christ! Listen to yourselves. "I gained 13 lbs (in 2 to 4 weeks) but it isn't as good as real gear". What kind of "real" gear puts as much weight on you in as short a time?

Reality check - IT IS REAL GEAR! It is an active anabolic steroid without the need to be converted in the body. It isn't a prohormone. The term "prosteroid" is used to describe anabolic steroids that (due to a loophole in the law) are legal.

I gained 10lbs on 15mg ed M1T in 3 weeks and ate a cutting diet to boot. I kept 8 of it and all the strength I gained. I didn't get results like that on 35mg dbol a day for 8 weeks. All I got from the dbol was 8 lbs of water, a lot of strength and painful pumps. I lost nearly all of the dbol strength within weeks of ceasing. I didn't get any lethargy or sexual sides either on the M1T.

The real downside to M1T IMO is the liver toxicity. It is more toxic than even halo or anadrol by far. One should POUND the liver supps while taking it.

BTW, Nelson Montana is pretty much the biggest idiot I have ever seen on the boards. He has zero understanding of human physiology, exercise physiology, biology, or chemistry. By his own admission, he has extremely limited personal experience with steroids (one light deca cycle and one oral primo cycle I think but I could be wrong) and no experience with prohormones or prosteroids. Yet, some people seem to think he is a guru because he published a book, LOL. He is so willing to lecture people on why some steroids (tren, EQ, deca), are shit and prohormones/prosteroids are worthless but he has no reference for comparison since he himself has never tried them. He never backs up ANY of his assertions with science either because most of his assertions are absurd and there IS no science to back it up. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.

Years ago on EF, I stopped even reading his moronic posts because it was just too frustrating to counter his assertions point by point with logic and scientific references only to have him just point blank REFUSE to accept that he could be wrong or that his approach was flawed.

[MuGGsy]

I gain alot more on m1t than on dbol .. never tried drols so I can't speak out but mg for mg m1t was alot better than dbol for me...