Oxavar - worth the price??

[Rottweiler]

YJ -

I'm interested in trying Gaspari's Oxavar, but have a hard time finding any posts on end results from this product. DO you have any insight?

Thx -

[YellowJacket]

Hey Rick,


Oxavar is fairly new to the market, thus the lack of publicity (except for its pretty steep claims) and lack of posts on it. MOHN claims to be more potent (10 times) than Anavar, which is a totally loaded statement. Its not often known but 1-test is such amouont more anabolic than testosterone, but I think we agree testosterone will yield much more satisfactory results.

At close to $40 per bottle, which would last the average user around 30 days, its not too overly priced. I have no personal experience with it, but would like to hear some real world feedback on it. All the feedback I have gathered so far indicates pretty decent strength gains and little, if any true side effects and some vascularity increases, but these are at doses around 12-16mgs a day, beyond the recommended dose.

I know PowerNutrition.net carries the Kilosport version, same ingredients.

If you do decide to try Oxavar, keep us posted on any progress, or lack there of. As for a complete opinion, Id hold off for a couple weeks and let the other "guinea pigs" test it out and draw a conclusion from there.


YJ

[njlovehandles]

just bought 1bottle. not going to use until next spring. just stockin up hoping to get a month out of it to help out in hardening after buling all winter. would love to see results/sides from users

[beefcake]

Gaspari stuff has been known to not contain as much of the compound as the bottle says. His M-Dien was found to be a culprit of this also. Sledge at designersupps has M4OHN also, and his stuff is good quality. There are some reviews on it at bulknutrition.com. http://www.bulknutrition.com/?products_id=1200

Better to support the board and go with powernutrition though.

[spidey]

I have been trying M4OHN (Oxivar) for several weeks now. I started out at 8mg ed but saw nothing after 3 weeks so went to 16mg ed. After 2 weeks, some minor increase in vascularity and a few extra reps in most exercises; nothing special. I increased to 32mg ed and have been on that for 1 week. Some more increase in vascularity but still too early to really tell much at this dosage. No sides at all that I can see yet.

I am taking 600mg ed R-ALA, 1200mg ed biotin, 2000mg ed vitamin C, 7 g ed vitamin B6, and Saw Palmetto (can't remember dose off hand) so that may be why I am not seeing any sides.

BTW, YJ, I would disagree with you on getting better results from test than 1-test. The reason people don't see comparable results is they take the 1-test orally which, as you know, has very low bioavailability. Let them try eating their test suspension and see if they get any results. If one were to compare injections of 1-test cypionate to test cypionate at the same dose, I would wager, 1-test would give better results in both mass and strength. The sides would also be worse however. 1-Test is both significantly more androgenic and anabolic than is normal test.

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by spidey
YJ, I would disagree with you on getting better results from test than 1-test. The reason people don't see comparable results is they take the 1-test orally which, as you know, has very low bioavailability. Let them try eating their test suspension and see if they get any results. If one were to compare injections of 1-test cypionate to test cypionate at the same dose, I would wager, 1-test would give better results in both mass and strength. The sides would also be worse however. 1-Test is both significantly more androgenic and anabolic than is normal test.

Granted the bioavailability is a lot lower, which is my point. Given the choice, I doubt many would pick an oral (or even transdermal) 1-test over some Cyp. or what have you. Ive been preaching the efficacy of 1-test for years and I think its finally getting to people.

[spidey]

UPDATE: I have been taking my increased dose of 32mg ed M4OHN for two weeks now.

My diet is just a maintanence diet for me. Without any anabolic supplements I would expect to neither gain nor lose weight and my BF does not fluctuate as a rule. It works out to be around 2000 to 2300 calories, 50% protein, 30% carbs, and 20% fat. I know it looks odd but it works for me.

I do no cardio; I work out on a 4 day split with the heaviest weights I can do 8 rep sets with: Mon chest/triceps, Tue legs, Wed off, Thur shoulders/biceps, Fri back/abs. In essence, this is not a cutting routine but more strength oriented.

Daily Supplementation: 600 mg R-ALA, 2000 mg vitamin C, Saw Palmetto, Multivitamin, 600 mcg biotin, and lately chondroitin.

I began taking 8 mg ed M4OHN some 7 weeks ago. After 3 weeks, I noticed no visible effects at all so I upped the dose to 16 mg ed. After 2 weeks, some increase in vascularity and mild strength gains but nothing substantial. I increased dose to 32 mg ed. After 2 weeks, more increased vascularity and I have dropped 2% BF but no overall weight gain. This corresponds to a loss of 3 lbs fat and a gain of 3 lbs LBM.

Experiment is ongoing.