YJ-Fat Loss Supps?

[bigpump23]

I figured it would be nice for you to put together a list of your top 5 fat loss supplements

[YellowJacket]

Ill do them ephedrine free style, but for my money, nothing beats ephedrine. Also, ephedrine HCL tabs (still legal and cheap) can be stacked with almost all fo these to greatly enhance fat loss.....

1. Xtreme Formulations Chizled
2. SANs Tight
3. Anarchy Stack
4. Green tea/tyrosine/fish oil
5. Guggulbolic Extreme

#5 is best stacked with something, but can be used alone. Im a big fan of Chizled, hence why its 1st, Tight w/ ephedrine hcl is one of the best OTC fat burners I have ever used.

[bigpump23]

Yeah i'v heard great things about ephedrine with tight. I never heard of chizzled though, damn i just order yesterday. i went with dymatizes dyma-burn (w/ephedrina). I need something to stack it with, any recommendations YJ??

Also i've searched alot and can't find the differece between ephedrine and ephedrina

[meat12]

got any info on chizzled yj, I was thinking of trying it out.

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by meat12
got any info on chizzled yj, I was thinking of trying it out.

Here's the rundown:

Chizled: Setting the Bar for Ephedra-Free Fat Burners

Xtreme Formulation’s Chizled was created for those seeking a high-potency fat loss formula that does not incorporate ephedrine or ephedra alkaloids. Chizled’s synergistic blend of ingredients accelerates fat burning beyond what’s possible with diet and exercise alone, enhances mental alertness, and conquers horrible food cravings—all without Ephedra!

Chizled is a unique thermogenic comprised of 8 different compounds, each of which is scientifically proven to enhance fat loss, minimize your body’s proclivity for lipogenesis (fat creation), boost Basal Metabolic Rate 24 hours per day, and help preserve muscle mass during periods of calorie restriction.

Chizled increases norepinephrine, epinephrine and cAMP levels. It activates a massive reduction in adipose insulin sensitivity and effectively blocks the absorption of incoming calories while forcing stored calories into the blood stream where they can quickly be burned.

Plus, Chizled optimizes thyroid activity, further priming the body for safe and effective fat loss. And, our potent green tea formula not only increases fat oxidation, it is an unbelievable antioxidant! Let’s take a look at Chizled’s ingredients now, and explore just why it has come to stand at the forefront of oral fat burners.

* Yohimbine - Yohimbine is an alpha 2 antagonist that mobilizes stored Free Fatty Acids (FFAs) via increases in blood flow to adipose tissue. Yohimbine enhances the transportation of fat away from adipose stores, and increases the rate at which that fat is burned for fuel. Additionally, due to Yohimbine’s mechanisms of action, it is highly effective at reducing the stubborn fat found in a man’s midsection or a woman’s lower body. As if this was not enough, Yohimbine is also an appetite suppressant—not only is it helping to burn fat, it’s doing so while helping to keep your hunger at bay.

* Octopamine - Octopamine is a Beta 3 agonist that increases Norepinephrine release while also enhancing insulin sensitivity, preferentially directing glucose into muscle tissue—definitely a beneficial quality for those looking to reduce bodyfat without compromising lean body mass. This makes Octopamine directly lipolytic and mildly anti-catabolic. Or to put it more simply: Octopamine burns fat while preserving muscle. And because it works via Beta 3 receptors, Octopamine imparts its fat loss benefits free of harsh side effects (such as blood pressure issue, jitters, insomnia, etc).

* Tyramine - Tyramine increases Norepinephrine and dopamine activity, potentiating beta stimulated lipolysis and enhancing fat loss through multiple pathways. Preliminary evidence also points to Tyramine’s role in enhancing leptin sensitivity as well, which is tremendously important when attempting to lose bodyfat and curb hunger.

* Green Tea - Green Tea inhibits COMT, enhances thermogenesis, and inhibits Fatty Acid synthesis; Green Tea is also a potent appetite suppressant. Perhaps most important, Green Tea is similar to Octopamine in that its effects are imparted with very few side effects; increases in heart rate, insomnia and increased blood pressure (to name a few) are not an issue with Green Tea. It has even been proposed to reduce the ease with which dietary fat can be digested, highlighting yet another way in which it’s excellent for fat reduction.

* Gugglesterones Z&E - Gugglesterones Z&E activate fat loss enzymes that safely increase T3 (a thyroid hormone) levels. An increase in thyroid levels—and specifically T3— amplifies metabolic rate, thereby promoting fat loss and retarding fat gain during periods of overeating. Typically when dieting, T3 levels plummet which brings fat loss to a halt; with the addition of Gugglesterones, this problem has been solved. T3 levels remain high, and fat loss continues at fast rates. And, unlike prescription thyroid drugs that can elevate T3 levels beyond what is safe, Gugglesterones potentiate thyroid levels without taking them out of the normal range.

* Bioperine - Bioperine is often dubbed a “thermonutrient;” it enhances the absorption of nutrients in the intestine, decreases their breakdown in the liver, and increases the percentage of active ingredients that reach the target cells. Bioperine has also been shown to stimulate thermogenesis in the Gastro Intestinal Tract, improving food-induced energy expenditure. Due to Bioperine’s absorption enhancement properties, it facilitates increased potency of thermogenic compounds, making every fat loss agent in Chizled more effective.

* Synephrine - Synephrine is a selective alpha 1 agonist. Alpha 1 activation leads to fat loss, both directly and indirectly through Beta stimulation. Synephrine’s thermogenic properties are also significantly enhanced by Caffeine. In addition, Alpha1 agonists such as Synephrine are known to markedly suppress appetite. Thus, not only does Synephrine enhance fat loss via thermogenesis, it also reduces the desire to eat, making weight reduction easier to achieve.

* Caffeine - Caffeine is a CNS stimulant with well-documented thermogenic and appetite-suppressive effects. It is also notorious for its positive effects on energy levels and athletic performance. Lastly, caffeine is long thought to work synergistically with Green Tea and Synephrine, improving the efficacy of each.


With an ingredient profile like this, it’s no wonder that Chizled is fast becoming one of the most popular Ephedra-Free fat burners on the market. Chizled is an unrivaled thermogenic comprised of 8 different ingredients, each of which is scientifically proven to enhance fat loss, minimize your body’s proclivity for lipogenesis (fat creation), boost Basal Metabolic Rate 24 hours per day, and help preserve muscle mass during periods of calorie restriction. With Chizled, you will see results—fast, safe, eye-pleasing results! It’s time to take the reigns, it’s time to get Chizled!

Supplement Facts:
Serving Size: 3 capsules
Servings Per Conatiner: 60

Caffeine Anhydrous 200mg
Synephrine HCL 20mg
Octopamine HCL 150mg
Tyramine HCL 25mg
Yohimbe HCL 3mg
Green Tea Extract 350mg [standardized for 220mg EGCG and 98% phenols]
Synthetic Gugglesterones Z&E 20mg
Bioperine 5mg


Here's a short but detailed log I had on it....

http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...hlight=chizled

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by bigpump23
Yeah i'v heard great things about ephedrine with tight. I never heard of chizzled though, damn i just order yesterday. i went with dymatizes dyma-burn (w/ephedrina). I need something to stack it with, any recommendations YJ??

Also i've searched alot and can't find the differece between ephedrine and ephedrina

I also have that here at the house and dont/didnt like it much..... I stacked it with green tea, a lot of fish oils and some guggulbolic extreme, but its just not cost efficient to have to do that....

[meat12]

Thanks bro

[bigpump23]

YJ what are you hearing about Avant's Sesathin. the stuff i'n hearing is too good to be true

[YellowJacket]

Ive heard its good stuff, although pretty rancid. I wouldnt say too good to be truem but they may be on to something. The only feedback I have heard is out of their camp, and youll never hear a bad review of their products from them.

[bigpump23]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
Ive heard its good stuff, although pretty rancid. I wouldnt say too good to be truem but they may be on to something. The only feedback I have heard is out of their camp, and youll never hear a bad review of their products from them.

this is true, they just came out with gelcaps and alot of peopl eover at bb.com are raving about it, it's suppose to be ideal for a lean bulk

[meat12]

Hey YJ, I tried out Chizzled last week and stopped taking it after three days. It made me exhausted by the end of the day, and I felt hung over the next morning. I had similar side effects from hydroxycut in the past. Any ideas? ...I guess I'll quit being lazy and really get on myself about the cardio. Thanks bro

[YellowJacket]

Meat-

What have to taken (stimulant wise) in the past?

[meat12]

Hydroxycut, ripped fuel...used to go to gnc alot.

[YellowJacket]

I have become extremely exhausted if Ive used a lot of stimulants in a small time frame, they seem to have a counterproductive effect. Over stimulation of the CNS causes that feeling. Chizled doesnt make me super hyper like ephedrine, but heightens my awareness and definately helped me cut a good bit from my waist..... and Im an ephedrine junky...

[meat12]

Yeah I felt much more hyper but didn't like the way it made me feel later. So I'll just do it the natural way, thanks for the advise bro