How should i stack these: 1-ad and 4-ad

[mastakillah]

okay, so i have 2 bottles of 1-ad and 1 bottle of 4-ad (60 pills per bottle, each bottle 1 month supply if taken 2 times daily). both are Ergopharm products. so how would you guys stack these.

i was thinking for the first 30 days taking 1-ad twice daily then the second 30 days stacking the 4-ad with the 1-ad.
should i take a two week break in between and supplement with some 6-oxo during that 2 week break............thoughts?

[DiamondCutCows]

I dont know shit about Ph's, wish I could help you man.









You do know those are Ph's, right?
:D j/k

[mastakillah]

yeah, haven't touched the real thing yet!

atleast you responded man. i put this shit up over at musclemayhem like 10 hours ago and still haven't gotten a single response............shit is fucked up! haha

[sekcbeast]

this might be a good question for YJ. i think he probably knows more about PH's then anyone.

[DiamondCutCows]

Originally posted by sekcbeast
this might be a good question for YJ. i think he probably knows more about PH's then anyone.

:agree:

I always thought PH's were a waste of money.
Minimal results compared to gear
Maximal sides compared to gear
Maximal price compared to gear
And I still wonder about wasting fresh receptors...:eek:

[njlovehandles]

at least 300mg of 1ad, and 900 mg of 4 ad(pills). thinking of doin the same cycle. more like 500 mg of 1ad and 900 4ad. might even do 600 mg of 4ad to stay away from bloat, and gyno. there is plent of info on this stuff, just look for it

[Skyefire]

you may have better luck in the right forum bro, I am moving the thread there

[beefcake]

Re: How should i stack these: 1-ad and 4-ad

Originally posted by mastakillah
okay, so i have 2 bottles of 1-ad and 1 bottle of 4-ad (60 pills per bottle, each bottle 1 month supply if taken 2 times daily). both are Ergopharm products. so how would you guys stack these.

i was thinking for the first 30 days taking 1-ad twice daily then the second 30 days stacking the 4-ad with the 1-ad.
should i take a two week break in between and supplement with some 6-oxo during that 2 week break............thoughts?

You aren't going to see great results by doing that. You're going to want to stack them together to get the best results, but even then you'll need around 500-800mg of 1AD per day and 600-1200mg of 4AD per day to get any real benefit. These are pretty mild compounds and liver toxicity isn't a big issue so, a 6-8 week cycle wouldn't be unheard of.

[mastakillah]

thanks for the responses guys.

i took that T-BOMB by MHP for 4 weeks and it was insane. i only took two 50 mg pills a day. one in the morning and one in the evening.
this 1-ad converts to the 1-test (which is what T-BOMB is) in the body. but i was thinking if i only took 100mg total a day of the 1-test, i was hoping taking 600mg a day of the 1-ad i would get even better results.

i do realize however that 1-test is a straight steriod, it does not convert in the body. so i dont know if the above assumption is accurate since the 1-ad has to convert to the 1-test.
any thoughts?

[beefcake]

Originally posted by mastakillah
thanks for the responses guys.

i took that T-BOMB by MHP for 4 weeks and it was insane. i only took two 50 mg pills a day. one in the morning and one in the evening.
this 1-ad converts to the 1-test (which is what T-BOMB is) in the body. but i was thinking if i only took 100mg total a day of the 1-test, i was hoping taking 600mg a day of the 1-ad i would get even better results.

i do realize however that 1-test is a straight steriod, it does not convert in the body. so i dont know if the above assumption is accurate since the 1-ad has to convert to the 1-test.
any thoughts?

1ad has a conversion rate of around 30% or so. Oral 1test isn't very bioavailable. Taking 1test orally, the liver serves to break the compound down, whereas with 1ad, the liver serves to activate it.

[mastakillah]

so i should get better results with the 1-ad?

that would be awesome cause i blew up the 4 weeks i took that 1-test.

[Primal Instinct]

Although you already have capsules of 1-AD and 4-AD, you'd probably be better off using a transdermal like S1+ from Dermabolics in the future. It has 1-Test and 4-AD premixed in a spray-on solution. It is also relatively inexpensive.

[Viral]

Originally posted by DiamondCutCows
:agree:

I always thought PH's were a waste of money.
Minimal results compared to gear
Maximal sides compared to gear
Maximal price compared to gear
And I still wonder about wasting fresh receptors...:eek:

Horrible horrible thing to say, especially if u openly admit u dont know anything about PH's....

[speedracer59]

Originally posted by Primal Instinct
Although you already have capsules of 1-AD and 4-AD, you'd probably be better off using a transdermal like S1+ from Dermabolics in the future. It has 1-Test and 4-AD premixed in a spray-on solution. It is also relatively inexpensive.

That is what I was going to say. I would sell that stuff and get some s1+ or a bdc transdermal.

[mastakillah]

that transdermal shit actually works. i thought all those products were bunk. dont know why, just thought they were. especially if its a lot cheaper. you get what you pay for (except for creatine [cell-tech]) haha