To cycle or Not to cylce

[mastakillah]

The product: Ergopharms 1AD and 4AD.
I am undecided on rather i should stack these two and take them at the same time. I had done a cycle of just the 1AD a year back and got good gains from that but felt like i kinda crashed afterwards. Not real bad though because i took some 6-oxo and also started taking tribulus and a few other things.

My question is, if i think these prohormones tend to make my own test levels run low or cause me to "crash" do you think its a bad idea to stack these two products? Or should i go ahead but just use more proper PCT such as clomid and nolva? THere both 300mg pills and i was going to take 2 a day of each. There is 60 in a bottle so if you take 2 a day thats a month cycle. I've also heard if you only take the 4AD by itself it really wont do anything because it was basically made to compliment and be stacked with the 1AD

[mastakillah]

alright, so no one has a fucking opinion on this? C'mon you dickheads i know someone out there can give me some insight! lol

[Puma]

I took 1AD a few years ago, and did not stack it with anything. I did not feel it did much; but I did gain a little weight; and I know that others do well on it.

I would suggest you try it with some test, or take the complimentry drug at the same time. I did not feel terribly shut down or anything, but I am sure I could have gained better if I had taken both at the same time.

Good luck,

Puma

alright, so no one has a fucking opinion on this? C'mon you dickheads i know someone out there can give me some insight! lol

[mastakillah]

cool, thanks for the info man. Never done the real deal but i think i'll probably stack the two and take them at the same time.

do you all think i'll need some serious PCT for this such as clomid, nolva or just some 6-oxo and tribulus? help please!

[go Yankees]

always run PCT...you're altering your natural hormone levels here, and you need to ease yourself back into normalcy when you're done...I stacked these two for a pretty short period of time once, only cause I didn't have a lot on hand, and yes, it did suppress my natural testosterone production to the point of my balls shrinking. Looking back, I think it was a good idea...I added a decent bit of strength, and lo and behold, I returned to normal shortly afterwards

[red_devil1469]

Is the 4ad oral?You would get much better results with topical.Use PCT Nolva is cheap.

[mastakillah]

cool, i'll make sure to pick some PCT stuff up, now i just need to figure out where to get it.

If i'm taking clomid, there would be no need for Tribulus correct? or should i stick that in as well?

[mastakillah]

yeah, the 4AD is oral, 300mg per pill. Its made by Ergopharm. I've had these bottle sitting around for about 2 years now.