Weight gainer, and other questions

[lordikon]

Ok, a couple questions.

1.) If I want to lose some fat around my midsection, but get bigger (muscle, not fat) at the same time, would weight gainer and cardio be counter-productive? Would I just be burning off the weight gainer, or could I get more muscular and lose some fat at the same time?

2.) I usually take half my protein, weight-gainer, and creatine before, and the other half after a workout. Is that 50/50 approach a good way to go? Should I take a little before and most of it after? In fact, can someone just layout the best way to have a meal and shake around your workout time?

I did search on these subjects by the way, and after 15 minutes of looking I got impatient. Thanks guys.

[ROCKILLER]

1) General rule is no, you cant have both. However, when you are just starting out you will gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. The reason I say this is because your body has so little muscle it will still build even being slightly deficient in calories. I dont have anything to back this up except for my experiences with myself and others. It all depends on how fat you are and what your goals are. Its getting to be summer time now and youre going to gain a little muscle anyway so I would try to lose weight.

2) I like to get a meal 1.5 to 2 hours before workout and then protein after but some creatines like x-pand have caffeine and are meant to be taken before too. I also have a scoop of explod about 30 min before workout if its early enough in the day. Otherwise I cant sleep. Just make sure you get some food in you with enough time for it to digest a little. I almost passed out a couple times before I really got my food schedule worked out.


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[lordikon]

1) General rule is no, you cant have both. However, when you are just starting out you will gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. The reason I say this is because your body has so little muscle it will still build even being slightly deficient in calories. I dont have anything to back this up except for my experiences with myself and others. It all depends on how fat you are and what your goals are. Its getting to be summer time now and youre going to gain a little muscle anyway so I would try to lose weight.

2) I like to get a meal 1.5 to 2 hours before workout and then protein after but some creatines like x-pand have caffeine and are meant to be taken before too. I also have a scoop of explod about 30 min before workout if its early enough in the day. Otherwise I cant sleep. Just make sure you get some food in you with enough time for it to digest a little. I almost passed out a couple times before I really got my food schedule worked out.


The more you read the better off you will be. Even if youre reading about stuff that doesnt really apply right now, you'll know about it for later.

Thanks for the quick reply.

Normally I eat 30-45 minutes before a workout, and then take 25g whey protein with water before my workout for some quick release protein. Then after the workout I would have another 25g whey protein with 2 cups of fat free milk. I think I will move my pre-workout shake and meal back about 15-30 minutes and see how that feels.

[Ashop]

Ok, a couple questions.

1.) If I want to lose some fat around my midsection, but get bigger (muscle, not fat) at the same time, would weight gainer and cardio be counter-productive? Would I just be burning off the weight gainer, or could I get more muscular and lose some fat at the same time?

2.) I usually take half my protein, weight-gainer, and creatine before, and the other half after a workout. Is that 50/50 approach a good way to go? Should I take a little before and most of it after? In fact, can someone just layout the best way to have a meal and shake around your workout time?

I did search on these subjects by the way, and after 15 minutes of looking I got impatient. Thanks guys.

If you going to try to lean up and cut your going to need to limit your calories...I believe a weight gainer would be counter productive.

[lordikon]

If you going to try to lean up and cut your going to need to limit your calories...I believe a weight gainer would be counter productive.

Well overall I'm not fat, I'm 6'0" 182 lbs at the moment. However, the fat I do have has gathered at my stomach. I only need to lose about 1 inch. Other than that 1" I need to gain mass everywhere else. I guess I just need to eat lean, which doesn't mean weight gainer....

[ROCKILLER]

Thats not totally true, gaining mass is about eating the right food at the right times. There are times when you cant eat some chicken or tuna and a MRP is very hgelpful. I like Up Your Mass. It kinda tastes like crap and its really chalky but youre going to learn that esating to get big isnt really about taste anymore.

[Shibby]

Up your mass is designed different than your typicall weight gainer though. Most your weight gainers have alot more sugar and more fats. So mostly of course you need to read the contents of what you get.

[Knoxy]

I've always had good results with cytogainer by cytosport. It doesn't taste half bad, even if you mix it with water and, from what I understand, it's made mostly from maltodextrin as opposed to sugar for your carbs. It also has creatine in it so you don't have to go buy a seperate tub. I'd pay attention to the rest of your diet though. When I started on it, I was half-assing the rest of my meal plan and so I didn't see full results until I started eating right all around. Good luck.