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[lovetoeat]

Taking creatine post-workout is not necessarily wrong, exercise can improve creatine uptake.

Why would protein affect creatine uptake?

Interestingly D-pinitol has been shown to be just as effective as carbs in aiding in creatine uptake, at least in one study(1).

(1)Greenwood, M., et al., "D-Pinitol Augments Whole Body Creatine Retention in Man," Jour Exe Physiol Online 4.4 (2001).

[Cory]

Originally posted by lovetoeat
Taking creatine post-workout is not necessarily wrong, exercise can improve creatine uptake.

Why would protein affect creatine uptake?

Interestingly D-pinitol has been shown to be just as effective as carbs in aiding in creatine uptake, at least in one study(1).

(1)Greenwood, M., et al., "D-Pinitol Augments Whole Body Creatine Retention in Man," Jour Exe Physiol Online 4.4 (2001).

It's not necessarily wrong, but why would you want cellular energy after you worked out.

protein naturally aids in stabolizing blood sugar, something you don't want because you basically need a slight insulin surge to absorb creatine.

[lovetoeat]

I don't know that there is a definitive answer on the best time to take creatine but post workout, with the aid of a insulin spike from the carbs in your shake would seem to be the best time to me.

After all creatine is depleted during exercise, so one would think supplementing with it after exercise would make sense.

Actually after a little digging creatine doesn't begin working until your muscle cells are saturated with it (thus the recommended loading) so when you take it will make little difference. Ingested creatine isn't what you are using during your workouts, it takes time for your body to process it. The creatine phosphate that is already stored in your cells is what is fueling your workouts.

[Cory]

It depends on the form of creatine used. This may be true for monohydrate forms, but creatine-glycerol-phosphate when chelated to magnesium, supports not only Creatine Phosphate (CP) production but also provides magnesium for greater adenosine triphosphate (ATP synthesis). So, you don't have to load and cycle because you get "on-the-spot" benefits right when you need it without sugar and without having the excess creatine in your system, which may turn to its toxic by-produst, creatinin, to cause all kind of digestion issues. In fact these newer forms are so quickly absorbed, you only need to use them only on the days you lift!!

Check out my ananlysis on the Opti-ATP products I posted a few posts above.

[lovetoeat]

Are you basing this review of your "new" creatine product on research or are you taking this companies word for it? Judging from the ingredient breakdown you posted it contains good old-fashioned creatine monohydrate amongst other things.

[Cory]

No, I read studies after studies and keep up with whats going on in the world of ever changing supplement, because I have to! My job requires me to. and I have looked into alot of the new products hitting the market that have been tested and are superior to just plain monohydrate. monohydrate is what they start with, because that is the basic compound, but when chelate bounded to magnesium, it makes it much more absorbable than monohydrate alone. Its the same kind of bonds they use in alot of mineral supp. like calcium to make them more absorbable. Maybe you should simply look into a product such as some of the ones I've mentioned and see foy yourself. Just like protein supp. have changed through the years, so are creatine products and all supp. for that matter. Its called technology, and if something can be improved, I'm sure studies will continue to be conducted, and products improved upon.

[lovetoeat]

Post a couple links for me, I'm never opposed to a little reading. As far as I know none of the "new age" creatine supplements have been shown to be any more effective then plain old creatine mono.

[lovetoeat]

Now maybe I'm just dense but from the label you posted it looks to me like they just took creatine monohydrate, magnesium and glycerol, threw it all together with some glucose disposal agents(under-dosed at that) and called it Creatine Magnesium Glycerol Phosphate.

Unless I'm missing something. Again if you have some info for me to read by all means, post it, all I've seen about this product is from the one site selling it. And even there it just lists the ingredients.

[Integrator]

great :D