Like Cell Tech? Make Your Own!

[YellowJacket]

Make Your Own Cell Tech
By Pogue

Celltech is a mixture of 10g of creatine, 75g of carbs, 200mg of ALA and 250mg of Vitamin C.

It is not a bad blend, but it is not worth the money they charge you for it, and their advertising is highly deceptive and their products suspect.

Here is a receipe for home made CellTech thats cheap and easy to make.

You need the following:

1. Pure creatine monohydrate powder (unflavored) - I prefer micronized creatine which is available from various manufacturers. Look for the "Creapure" logo.

2. Pure dextrose or Gatorade powder (if you use pure dextrose you may want to add a teaspoon or half a teaspoon of Koolaid or lemonade mix to it to help the flavor)

3. ALA capsules or powder (powder is available from Beyond a Century but has a burning sensation when you swallow it, but is much cheaper)

4. Optional: Vitamin C tablets or pure powder (BAC carries this as well)

Directions:

Mix either 2-3 scoops of Gatorade powder, or enough servings of Dextrose for at least 30g of carbs (you really don't need 75g unless you feel like you need to) with 10g of creatine powder. Add 1 level scoop of ALA powder, or enough for ~200mg. Add water (and optional flavoring). Also, add your Vitamin C powder or take your tablet before hand. Stir until the ALA and creatine dissolve fully and drink.

ALA, Creatine & Vitamin C powder is available from BAC.

They should also be available from your favorite supplement shops elsewhere.

[Lich]

Haha awesome man, it is defineatly an allright product, but not how they make it seem and for the cost.I might try this sometime and cell it to dumb friends in my empty cell tech bottles for like 40 dollars haha....

[jipped genes]

YJ can you premix a large batch does the ALA loose effectivness as it comes into contact with air?

[Cory]

Way too much sugar...I'd rather use a newer type creatine that combines much higher levels of ALA , vanadyl, or other compounds that act like insulin so you can uptake the creatine without your own blood sugar being involved. I have used cell-tech before and was bloated and actually put on excess body fat over time from all the sugar.

[YellowJacket]

Originally posted by Cory
Way too much sugar...I'd rather use a newer type creatine that combines much higher levels of ALA , vanadyl, or other compounds that act like insulin so you can uptake the creatine without your own blood sugar being involved. I have used cell-tech before and was bloated and actually put on excess body fat over time from all the sugar.

Not too much sugar at all. Thats about the average amount of sugar taken in post workout.


JG- Keep the batch out of the light....

[Cory]

Yeah, but the majority of studies have shown that creatine should be taken pre-workout, not post-workout, because its main effects peak within 2 hours after taking it. Creatine's role is to give you energy on the cellular level in order to delay the onset of fatigue. You don't want these effects after you've already finished working out. Also, if you take creatine along with protein post work-out, the uptake of the creatine will be cut way down, because protein stabolizes blood sugar and you need an insulin spike just to aborb it.
Creatine's with sugar transports are actually on the outs these days because of the diabetic potential involved with studies coming back from long term use.
The third generation creatine's hitting the market today are recognizing these studies and taking out the sugar for uptake and replacing it with compounds that mimick insulin such as ALA and vanadyl, two wonderful compounds that are actually incredible antioxidants, and looking at creatine and its effects in a whole new light. Trac creatine, Juiced Creatine by Pinnacle, CGP by Metabolic Nutrition, and Opti ATP by PCF Labs are a few brands that are on the cutting edge of creatine supplementation.
The great thing about some of these newer products is that they have done away with the digestion, de-hydration, and bloating issues that have plagued creatine products in the past.
I don't particularly care for any products from muscle-tech or any other multi-leveling market companies that spend all their money on 4 or 5 page ads. The reason they are so overpriced is the fact that you pay for all the marketing while the quality of the product suffers.

[prolangtum]

Bloat is part of creatine, its one of the mechanisms it works though. An overhydrated muscle cell means, a faster recovering, stronger cell. I wouldnt include ALA in any formula either.

[Cory]

Originally posted by prolangtum
Bloat is part of creatine, its one of the mechanisms it works though. An overhydrated muscle cell means, a faster recovering, stronger cell. I wouldnt include ALA in any formula either.

I can atest to that no being true. I used the Opti Atp product and got great results without any bloating or cramping. No so with plain monohydrate products that need to have sugar combined with them. Its the sugar that causes the bloating.

[prolangtum]

but creatine by nature causes intracelluar water retention.

[Cory]

You ought to look into the newer forms of creatine, prolangtum....some companies have been able to produce it without some of the problems associated with just plain monohydrate. Like this one from PCF Labs...

OptiATP

(Creatine Magnesium Glycerol Phosphate)
Pharmaceutical Grade Ultra Micronized
10 grams of creatine magnesium glycerol phosphate per serving
Maximum creatine abso rption and utilization without sugar
Formulated for maximum celluar energy production
Glycerol and electrolyte enhanced for optimum hydration
Lactic acid buffering
No loading or cycling necessary
OptiATP™ is the third generation in creatine supplementation. It has been specifically designed to support all aspects of muscular energy production for greater power, performance and recovery.

OptiATP™, the newest form of creatine, supports not only Creatine Phosphate (CP) production but also provides magnesium for greater adenosine triphosphate (ATP synthesis).

OptiATP™ is formulated with muscle hydrating glycerol and lactic acid buffering phosphate to enhance the effectiveness of this formulation. What is achieved is the most synergistic creatine product ever developed. Welcome to the next generation in performance creatine.

Supplement Facts:
Serving Size: 1 Rounded Scoop (14.5g)
Servings Per Container: 30

Calories 8
Total Fat 0g

Amount per Serving % Daily Values*
Creatine 10g
Creatine Magnesium
Glycerol Phosphate 11.5g
from CreatineMagnaPower™,
Creapure™ creatine
monohydrate,
Potassium
Glycerophosphate
& Biotin de *

TCIP Complex
(Trans Celluar Insulin
Potentiating Complex)
Proprietary Blend of:
Alpha Lipoic Acid,
Banaba PE (1%
Corosolic Acid) &
Chromium
(as Chromium
Polynicotinate) 400mg *
Potassium Glycerophosphate: 1mg
Biotin: 500mcg
Taurine: 1g
Sodium: 0mg
Potassium: 120g
Magnesium: 320g

*
167%
*
0%
3%
8%

*Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet. Your daily values may be higher or lower depending on your calories needs.
**No Daily Value Established

OTHER INGREDIENTS:Citric Acid, Beet Juice Powder, Natural Punch Flavor, Maltodextrin, Beta Carotene, Sucralose

[YellowJacket]

If it isnt broke, dont fix it.

[Cory]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
If it isnt broke, dont fix it.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, YJ, but if there is something out there that is better, you better believe I'm gonna use it. The world of supplements is changing as newer studies are conducted everyday. Plain monohydrate is becoming obsolete compared to some of the newer products coming out. I work in the supplement field and I have to keep on top of whats happening with them. Sugar is baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaddddd!!!!!!

[YellowJacket]

Carbs are essential post workout, sugar is preached for a reason. I personally use low GI carbs, but had great success with malto/dextrose. I dont think monohydrate will ever be obsolete. As long as you can throw 5-10 grams in your post workout shake and already have the simple sugar for glycogen compensation, you're set.

[Cory]

Originally posted by YellowJacket
Carbs are essential post workout, sugar is preached for a reason. I personally use low GI carbs, but had great success with malto/dextrose. I dont think monohydrate will ever be obsolete. As long as you can throw 5-10 grams in your post workout shake and already have the simple sugar for glycogen compensation, you're set.

I only use maltodextrin carbs post workout with my protein, but this creatine product is to be taken pre-workout!! The previous thinking was that creatine had to be taken post-workout because of the simple fact that you needed carbs for absorption and you don't want that many carbs pre-workout. Because this product does not require carbs is is best taken pre-workout!

[prolangtum]

I use SWOLE or V12, but all creatines cause water retention within the muscle, some do make you retain water as a whole though.