Legs...

[Juka865]

ok so I went in the gym. I did about 4-5 leg excercises. Nothing real strenous. While i was doing i felt the burn but my muscles didnt hurt. I then proceeded to do about 25 mins of cardio after the workout.
Should u do cardio same day as legs??? I see ppl in the gym do it all the time...
Im asking because the day after my legs killed i could barely walk up or down the steps... for the next 2 days. I dont want this happening again so what should i do???
I guess i over worked em but i dont know how i did that. I could of down more weight then I really did. I did not do too many reps. I work around 3 sets of 12. IDK from your experience what excercises should i be doing to get a full leg work out with out killing my self for the next 2 days. And with the cardio situation too>?

[Stonecold54]

Re: Legs...

Originally posted by Juka865
ok so I went in the gym. I did about 4-5 leg excercises. Nothing real strenous. While i was doing i felt the burn but my muscles didnt hurt. I then proceeded to do about 25 mins of cardio after the workout.
Should u do cardio same day as legs??? I see ppl in the gym do it all the time...
Im asking because the day after my legs killed i could barely walk up or down the steps... for the next 2 days. I dont want this happening again so what should i do???
I guess i over worked em but i dont know how i did that. I could of down more weight then I really did. I did not do too many reps. I work around 3 sets of 12. IDK from your experience what excercises should i be doing to get a full leg work out with out killing my self for the next 2 days. And with the cardio situation too>?

I always do cardio before legs if it is on leg day. Any other workout I would do it after the workout.

[meat12]

I skip the cardio when doing legs..I feel I get a better workout

[Incredible_Bulk]

I always do stationary bike before legs, and before stretching

[sreisin547]

I do it before legs as a good warm up...not as long as I would any other day though, about 10 mins

[decadecadeca]

PAIN IS YOUR FRIEND!

And I don't do any cardio at all on the days I lift. That energy is best left for the real work. You can't be afraid to be sore the next day. I say stick with the basics.

quads=squats,leg press
hamstrings=deadlifts,lying curls
calves=standing and seated press

You've said on several other posts you don't believe in the "no pain, no gain" philosophy. I respect your opinion but ask anyone here if they never get sore. I don't care how long you've trained or what gear you do or don't take. There's a difference between the feeling of a tendonitis or tear and that great feeling of just being sore as hell. That soreness is a natural body process, of being torn apart and rebuilt.

[Juka865]

yes i dont believe in it to an extent. PPL say basically only w ay u get a good work out is if u hurt the next day and thats not the truth its been proven working to fatigue is better then working till it hurts. If u work till fatigue and the next day ur sore then thats a great work out u did. I think im gonna cut down to just 3 leg excercises or w/e. I did 5 that day or maybe 6. LOL for my first leg day since awhile. That's prolly why. My friend also told me the first few weeks of legs are the worst.

[Face]

Originally posted by decadecadeca
PAIN IS YOUR FRIEND!

And I don't do any cardio at all on the days I lift. That energy is best left for the real work. You can't be afraid to be sore the next day. I say stick with the basics.

quads=squats,leg press
hamstrings=deadlifts,lying curls
calves=standing and seated press

You've said on several other posts you don't believe in the "no pain, no gain" philosophy. I respect your opinion but ask anyone here if they never get sore. I don't care how long you've trained or what gear you do or don't take. There's a difference between the feeling of a tendonitis or tear and that great feeling of just being sore as hell. That soreness is a natural body process, of being torn apart and rebuilt.

Juka, listen to this guy, he is on the money.... This is exactly what I was going to say. I never do cardio on lifting days simply because whatever I do, be it lifting or cardio, I always go all out. So, after one of my mammoth 15k runs the last thing i feel like doing is some weights. However, sometimes, and this is not very often, i feel so alpha and pumped up after a weights workout, that I just get on the treadmill and fucking kill it :)

[Shibby]

Originally posted by decadecadeca
PAIN IS YOUR FRIEND!

And I don't do any cardio at all on the days I lift. That energy is best left for the real work. You can't be afraid to be sore the next day. I say stick with the basics.

quads=squats,leg press
hamstrings=deadlifts,lying curls
calves=standing and seated press

You've said on several other posts you don't believe in the "no pain, no gain" philosophy. I respect your opinion but ask anyone here if they never get sore. I don't care how long you've trained or what gear you do or don't take. There's a difference between the feeling of a tendonitis or tear and that great feeling of just being sore as hell. That soreness is a natural body process, of being torn apart and rebuilt.

What do you mean by pain?


Juka - There's a difference between feeling slightly sore the next day and being in so much pain your unable to walk, or use any muscle in any case. A little soreness can be expected, but if your always in a constant aching pain, then your either underconditioned or overtraing. As far as your question specificly I would say you over trained.

[decadecadeca]

Like I said:
"There's a difference between the feeling of a tendonitis or tear and that great feeling of just being sore as hell."

Same as what you said, for someone just starting out and just joining a gym for the first time he has to expect to get sore. It's not something to avoid. If it's a burning pain that lasts all day, or a grinding pain in the joint then of course that's not normal or acceptable. But a general muscle soreness/tightness the day or two after a good workout is totally normal and to be expected. When I say pain, of course I don't mean to do squats with bad form and too much weight until your kneecaps explode. But there are many days especially after hard leg training that I walk like Frankenstein when I get out of bed, it hurts like hell and I think about installing grab bars next to the toilet so I can stand up after. That's a GOOD pain, and I don't think anyone should train to avoid it. IMHO

[Juka865]

yea same thing with me. Next day or 2 after legs i feel like i need some crutches or something =)

[Juka865]

are these too much for legs???
Legcurls.
Seated Legpress
Leg exteensions.
Calf Raises.
If so what can I add or take away to hit up my legs great???
I dont like Squats really... I know im weird. Bad experience with them once last year in gym and im always afraid to do it again especially by myself. Im also afraid of spiders LOL.

[Shibby]

It can work. If you don't like to do free squats have you tried using a smith machine? The leg esxtension and the leg curls arn't going to make you grow much. There not what you would consider natural leg movements. "have you ever seen someone get big quads from doing leg extensions". With the leg press, I constatly see people doing half reps. They don't lower it down any where near as low as they should. They may create at best a 45 degree angle in there knee. Alot of people can't bring it down as far as needed because there stomach is pushed out and there legs stop there. So remeber to suck that stomach in to increase the range of motion.

[Face]

To be honest, we could sit here and argue about whether being sore is good or not till the cows come home.... Remember, a lot of pain is perception also, some people perceive the feeling of pain stronger than others. I say work out intensely, get plenty of rest, and if you can handle the soreness then thats fine. If not, reduce your workout intensity.

And Juka, theres no easy way to get big legs mate. You want big legs, you gotta beat the shit out of yourself with squats and deadlifts......

[ROCKETW19]

yep like shibby said use the smith machine! i wont do squats with out it my back kills with free weight but smith it never hurts. IMO you legs hurt so badd cuzz your just gettin back to doin them, it will get better with time. dont give up and dont give up squats...good luck.