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**YellowJacket** · 08-31-04, 07:39 PM

Your heart will beat fast with or without the stacker. Lets drop the Stacker and stimulants for now and talk about this 1.5 mile...

What season are you in? (Season, post season, pre season or off season). Answer me this and we will talk...

**Stonecold54** · 08-31-04, 07:41 PM

what kind of bodyfat do you have. muscle shouldn't really slow you down. muscle can always contract fast then only thing that will slow you down is fat weight. I have had friend run worse times on stimluants. I am not sure why but they couldn't focus as much on the running and felt dizzy. I would try it on your own. take one pill and do the run and see how fast it is. then take two and see what happens.

**beefcake** · 08-31-04, 07:43 PM

You'd be better off with just caffeine and taurine.

**Sev408** · 08-31-04, 07:45 PM

yellow this is preseason fallball. 5 weeks long first day is the 1.5 along with our gym tests to see if the carts you hand in are for real or are bs'd.

im not sure what my body fat is, problem i have right now is my lower back muscles right where my belt line is lock up when i start running after like 2 minutes. when to the doctors 4 times, xrays and bone tests and nothing came up, they dont know what the problem is. i took a muscle relaxer my mom has for her neck muslces (i knowits a bad idea) and that allowed me to run maybe another 2 minutes and then my back locked up.

so in the past week i havent been able to run because the pain is fricken crazy my legs wont move and the pain stops when i lay down and my body cools down.

**beefcake** · 08-31-04, 07:49 PM

Originally posted by Sev408
yellow this is preseason fallball. 5 weeks long first day is the 1.5 along with our gym tests to see if the carts you hand in are for real or are bs'd.

im not sure what my body fat is, problem i have right now is my lower back muscles right where my belt line is lock up when i start running after like 2 minutes. when to the doctors 4 times, xrays and bone tests and nothing came up, they dont know what the problem is. i took a muscle relaxer my mom has for her neck muslces (i knowits a bad idea) and that allowed me to run maybe another 2 minutes and then my back locked up.

so in the past week i havent been able to run because the pain is fricken crazy my legs wont move and the pain stops when i lay down and my body cools down.

How is your posture when you run? How are your shoes? Bad shoes wreck havoc on my lower back.

**YellowJacket** · 08-31-04, 07:54 PM

Originally posted by Sev408
yellow this is preseason fallball. 5 weeks long first day is the 1.5 along with our gym tests to see if the carts you hand in are for real or are bs'd.

Then do me a favor, next practice, ask your coach.. "when in a lacrosse game will I run 1.5 miles at a time as a goalie?" and listen to him speak in circles. This is the biggest fault of coaches around the country. Coaches are coaches, coaches are not strength and conditioning specialists (although more and more are becoming CSCS certified)...... it makes no sense for you to run 1.5 miles. I could relate if this were the off season, and running 1.5 miles for cardiovascular purposes, but pre season should be 95% sports specific.

problem i have right now is my lower back muscles right where my belt line is lock up when i start running after like 2 minutes. when to the doctors 4 times, xrays and bone tests and nothing came up, they dont know what the problem is. i took a muscle relaxer my mom has for her neck muslces (i knowits a bad idea) and that allowed me to run maybe another 2 minutes and then my back locked up.

This is most likely due to tight hamstrings, pulling down on the proximal muscles of the back. I see this 8-10 times a year. It makes sense that a muscle relaxer would allow flexibility/stretching to continue exercise. Concentrate on hamstring stretches, taking them seriously, and holding the stretch for 12-15 seconds. Id bet my yearly salary this is will alleviate your problem.

**Sev408** · 08-31-04, 08:06 PM

what kind of stretches will do hamstring, hurdle stretch? not sure which stretches do what i just do what im told to stretch and dont really pay any attention to them.

**Shibby** · 09-01-04, 08:19 AM

Originally posted by Sev408
what kind of stretches will do hamstring, hurdle stretch? not sure which stretches do what i just do what im told to stretch and dont really pay any attention to them.

If you have a partner you can do PNF stretching (Proprioceptive Neuromuscular Facilitation). I found it to give me the best stretch and loosest legs ever when I was kickboxing.

**Stonecold54** · 09-01-04, 08:59 AM

I find that when I incorporate Stiff Legged Dead Lifts in my routine and I do them with perfect form I get a great stretch from doing them in my hams. IF you don't know how to do them then don't because you might hurt yourself even worse.

**Gort** · 09-02-04, 01:11 AM

Years ago (A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...)

Yes, well anyway

I found that too many situps had made my hip flexors too strong.
This gave me horrible knots in my lumbar and oblique areas when running long distance (forced bad posture?). Crunches and hyperextensions eventually ballanced this back out.

I'm no expert but give it a thought.

Although HIIT training would probably be best for the sport, long distance running can be built up if required. Just back down to a walk before the problem gets severe and run some more when it subsides. You should get farther each time.

A calcium supplement tends to help with cramping and charly horses.

**Sev408** · 09-04-04, 05:44 PM

what kind of calcium supplement should i be looking at getting?

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