Favorite Shoulder Mass lifts

[Jordan]

the buddy comment was in response to beefcake;s buddy comment. yes i am quite aware that traps extend down your back but you really have to train traps as if it were 2 muscles.... ask someone to give you a shoulder massage- theyll reach for your traps

[MDAM21]

i agree with jordan, anatomically traps are more back, but they look(to the layman's eye anyways) like they are part of the shoulders. to answer lithare, i know alot of people here dont necessarily see eye to eye withg me on this, but IMO as far as building strength and overall mass, power lifts work the best, for me anyways. like a clean and jerk, or apower clean. obviously sh. presses and lateral raises are absolutely necessary as well

[Lithare]

I have the hardest time working my lateral delts. My front delts are pretty good, and I know how to hit my rear delts effectively. I'm just never feeling it in the lateral delts, and I'm doing all of the exercises you guys named. Not obviously all in one routine. With the equipment available to me, I do smith or dumbell military press, front dumbbell raise, lateral dumbbell raise, bent lateral raise, and upright row. Those are my fav's anyway. Guess I just need to lower the weight and focus on the resistance and specifically fatiguing my lateral delts. Thanks, though.

[sana]

Originally posted by Jordan
ask someone to give you a shoulder massage- theyll reach for your traps

no, that's a neck rub.

seriously - you're on a bb oriented board. if you were talking to a room full of people who've never worked out in their life, you may have a little room for argument. but in this environment where we look at the body and part of the body as we do - you have no room to wiggle.

sorry to say - i'm going to tell you - you are wrong. the traps are part of the back and not the shoulders. period. end of story.

bye.

[sana]

Originally posted by Lithare
I have the hardest time working my lateral delts. My front delts are pretty good, and I know how to hit my rear delts effectively. I'm just never feeling it in the lateral delts, and I'm doing all of the exercises you guys named. Not obviously all in one routine. With the equipment available to me, I do smith or dumbell military press, front dumbbell raise, lateral dumbbell raise, bent lateral raise, and upright row. Those are my fav's anyway. Guess I just need to lower the weight and focus on the resistance and specifically fatiguing my lateral delts. Thanks, though.

my recommendation to you is that if your anterior delts grow well - there's no need to do front raises. they are hit on chest day and then again with presses. why do the front raise as well? start shoulder day with lateral exercises. do different things with them like pyramid sets and or a giant drop set in addition to focusing on resistance.

[Face]

Go look at an anatomy book BUDDY.....

[Shibby]

tra·pe·zi·us ( P ) Pronunciation Key (tr-pz-s)
n. pl. tra·pe·zi·us·es
Either of two large flat triangular muscles running from the base of the occiput to the middle of the back that support and make it possible to raise the head and shoulders.

[Lithare]

Dude, your traps are part of your back, and we all know it. It doesn't even look like your shoulders. Your shoulders stick out to the sides, and your traps are along the neck and top. And besides, I was wondering about delts anyway, so leave it alone or take it someplace else.

[Jordan]

holy crap- remind me to get my advice proofread and edited next time. i really didnt mean to offend everyone so very deeply. i think theres a bad case of pms going around

[JACKAL]

Originally posted by Jordan
i think theres a bad case of pms going around

way to smooth things over

[beefcake]

Originally posted by Jordan
the buddy comment was in response to beefcake;s buddy comment.

I didn't mean it in an asshole sort of way bro. Sorry if you felt I did.

[sana]

Originally posted by Jordan
holy crap- remind me to get my advice proofread and edited next time. i really didnt mean to offend everyone so very deeply. i think theres a bad case of pms going around

no one has PMS, but you were acting like an ass about trying to convince people that traps were part of your shoulders. act like an ass and you get treated like an ass.

[Pumpdogg]

Cant we all just get along?