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I was wondering why it took so long for stonecold to post! He definitely has his opinions (backed by some decent science, I will admit) on overtraining. My comments are based on my own experience and playing around with the number of sets and frequency of working out any given body part--and eating and sleeping a ton.
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Every weight I've ever lifted has been written down. Of course I've only been lifting for 10 months.Originally posted by stonecold54
How do any of you know if he is overtraining. I am not trying to be a bitch here but lordikon, do you keep track of everything that could possibly be related in your life that will change your stress levels. Something as simple as the change of seasons could be the straw that breaks the camels back so to speak. I don't like it when people assume whether someone is overtraining or not. If you do not train him personally and for at least 6 months you have no idea his exercise tolerances nor his endocriology. Lordikon if you really want to know if you are overtrained does it make sense to tinker around starting at the high end or low end. Wouldn't it make more sense to start from zero sets (where there is obviously no growth) and work your way up. If people really want to know their tolerances then you need to be scientific about it. You don't just pour two random amounts of chemicals together and see how they react. You start with just one and then add small amounts to see what the reaction is going to be otherwise it will eventually blow up in your face.
I keep track of weight, sets, reps, and the order in which I do each workout. After I finish an exercise I set a goal for the next week, and move on to the next workout.
My routines worked fine for the first 5 months, the last 5 have been very slow. Of course I expected it to slow down, just not so fast. I gained 1.5 inches on my biceps in 3 months. And have only gained another .5 inches over the last 7 months. I know I'm a natty, and don't have the genetics, but that's a lot slower than I expected. I know my diet is off, but for all I know I could be doing everything else right. I'm in no hurry to get big, I know this will take years since I'm doing it naturally. I just want to get the most out of my time.Comment
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aaaahhhaaaa...a novice trainer can do any type of program for usually 4-6 months and make spectacular gains. The body is in such a state of UNDER training that it takes AWHILE (even if you massively over train) for it to reach a catabolic state. If you notice 6 months is normally when newbies start asking questions on what is wrong and why have their gains started slowing. #1 that will happen with all progression as we never progress as fast as when we first start and #2 if your program initiates you to overtraining your gains will severly slow down or stop. and then usually that is where people "change" up there routine which usually consists of mixing up sets, reps, exercises and such but never really exploring the relationship of the priniciples of exercise science (intensity, volume, frequency, SAID, progressive overload, individualism).Originally posted by lordikon
Every weight I've ever lifted has been written down. Of course I've only been lifting for 10 months.
I keep track of weight, sets, reps, and the order in which I do each workout. After I finish an exercise I set a goal for the next week, and move on to the next workout.
My routines worked fine for the first 5 months, the last 5 have been very slow. Of course I expected it to slow down, just not so fast. I gained 1.5 inches on my biceps in 3 months. And have only gained another .5 inches over the last 7 months. I know I'm a natty, and don't have the genetics, but that's a lot slower than I expected. I know my diet is off, but for all I know I could be doing everything else right. I'm in no hurry to get big, I know this will take years since I'm doing it naturally. I just want to get the most out of my time.
also my point in my previous post is that life stress can also have a profound affect on training. Stress from life gives the same catabolic affect that lifting a heavy weight will. The bodies reaction to stressors is universal from almost getting hit by a car to squatting 500 pounds. That is why more than just your lifting should be kept track of. Stress of relationships, work and life in general should be tracked because they can have a profound affect as well. Good luck to you lordikon-make sure you are your own best trainer bro.Comment
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thanx for the advice stonecold. Being a novice I figured that my routine would do this, so I'm not really bothered much by it. I will now proceed to improve my diet and will try and have as little stress as possible (I don't have much anyway).Comment
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It sounds like you've gained a decent amount of weight since you started and you say your actually have been eating less so it just seems like you need to focus on getting in some more calories. But I think you've figured that already. good luck.Comment
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Yeah, I went from 150 to 192 in 6 months. I've decided to start keeping track of calories, I have a feeling that's my problem. And when I write it down, it will motivate me to eat more if I see I haven't reached the daily goal.Comment
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Thats impressive bro.Comment
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