My problem area.....

[The_Grinder]

Its that spot right where the blue circle is. My triceps and my lats are coming along great yet I still cant figure out how to hit right here. It is extremely soft and it pisses me off! What do I need to do to hit right there?? What muscle contributes most to that area?

(I know the circle gets some of the rear delt but the softness is below that on me)

[coffee-guy]

Teres Major/Minor - pullups and pulldowns sitting straight up and down (but not behind the neck) - cable pullovers can help too...

[Bouncer]

is it soft when you flex the area? seems kinda odd. bent over side raises will hit it. basic should presses hit it etc..

[The_Grinder]

Teres Major/Minor - pullups and pulldowns sitting straight up and down (but not behind the neck) - cable pullovers can help too...

I have always done my pulldowns and pullups with my chest angled up a little bit cuz I thought it hit my lats better. Could this be a reason its soft there? Do I need to have two different sets of pull-up/pull-downs?

[The_Grinder]

is it soft when you flex the area? seems kinda odd. bent over side raises will hit it. basic should presses hit it etc..

Its mainly a problem when they are relaxed. When I flex it is firmer but not near as hard as my lats or my tris. And it looks a little odd, like there isnt much connecting my lat to my tricep in the angle of my armpit. Makes my shoulders look smaller than they are. The bent over side raises I have neglected I am definately adding those Friday in my next shoulder workout. Always done a lot of pressing in my shoulder workouts already.

[redback]

Cable rows

[coffee-guy]

Bent over laterals hit the rear delts - not the teres major/minor...

Leaning back with your chest up and shoulder blades adducted does hit the lats best but the problem area you're referring to isn't your lats though - the lats run parrallel to the chest in a horizontal placement - they don't insert into the back of the arm - that is the teres major/minor....

[The_Grinder]

Bent over laterals hit the rear delts - not the teres major/minor...

Leaning back with your chest up and shoulder blades adducted does hit the lats best but the problem area you're referring to isn't your lats though - the lats run parrallel to the chest in a horizontal placement - they don't insert into the back of the arm - that is the teres major/minor....

K. So do I need to do two different sets of pulldowns? Like a couple sets with my back leaned back and a couple sets straight up and down so I hit both the lats and the teres major/minor?

[Bouncer]

Bent over laterals hit the rear delts - not the teres major/minor...

the little circle in the picture looks to me like it is is circling the rear delt. is that not what that is?

[FitnessBrat]

the little circle in the picture looks to me like it is is circling the rear delt. is that not what that is?

The little circle IS on the rear delt, but Grinder is saying his "problem" is below the rear delt. The picture doesn't really do anything in other words lol.

[coffee-guy]

Yeah - you'll need to do both...

Lol - yeah the picture circles several things but he said it wasn't his rear delt....

[Bouncer]

ahh, ok. guess i should read the whole thread. :D

[buell1965]

throw in wide grip t- bar rows when u do back and if u are doing shoulder presses ima guessing u are doing behind the neck.if not u need to,if that doesnt show some improvement read leonard nimoys "the lost muscle group"....i kid i kid.

[coffee-guy]

throw in wide grip t- bar rows when u do back and if u are doing shoulder presses ima guessing u are doing behind the neck.if not u need to,if that doesnt show some improvement read leonard nimoys "the lost muscle group"....i kid i kid.

Nothing behind the neck :mad: ...

[Kiev]

Maybe do a rowing machine for cardio once a week with the new bent-over rows your doing now. the High reps may cause that hardness you want.