A peak at what I am doing for your opinion

[NewbieChris]

Thinking of doing something like this:

Cardio - Monday though Saturday 50 minutes LIT (jogging/stairmil)

Lifting:

Monday: off
Tuesday: Chest/Arms
Wednesday: Legs
Thursday: off:
Friday: Back
Saturday: Shoulders Arms.
Sunday: Off

Everyday I lift, I do mini circuits where I hit abs.

I just can't get rid of my belly.

Thoughs?

[the art of war]

doing arms 5 days apart w/that split might over train biceps if you are doing a heavy back workout w/pulling movements - also, you don't find your triceps are pretty spent after doing shoulders ? What do you do for shoulders typically ?

[Bouncer]

i think its a ton of cardio.

i think you are going to end up slowing down your metabolism and eat your muscle away in your tunnel vision effort to get rid of the fat on your stomach. you gotta realize bro, you may have access skin from when you were fat.

[ROCKETW19]

Thinking of doing something like this:

Cardio - Monday though Saturday 50 minutes LIT (jogging/stairmil)

Lifting:

Monday: off
Tuesday: Chest/Arms
Wednesday: Legs
Thursday: off:
Friday: Back
Saturday: Shoulders Arms.
Sunday: Off

Everyday I lift, I do mini circuits where I hit abs.

I just can't get rid of my belly.

Thoughs?

I dont like the workout. I know half ass anwser if you want my opinion on body parts I will give it. Cardio 50 mins everyday. That is great but you know diet will do more. your last diet was pretty good IMO have you adjusted it at all. Maybe its time for less cals maybe more?

[NewbieChris]

I dont like the workout. I know half ass anwser if you want my opinion on body parts I will give it. Cardio 50 mins everyday. That is great but you know diet will do more. your last diet was pretty good IMO have you adjusted it at all. Maybe its time for less cals maybe more?

I wouldn't have posted if I didn't want your guys opinion. My fear is that I have been in a calorie deficit. I was eating around 2200 calories and I was having trouble losing fat. I do cardio because a lot of people say it is going to pull the bf off. I can post up my new diet. Its simple:

Meal 1 - 8:30am: 6 egg whites, 2 whole eggs, 1/2 cup oatmeal
Meal 2 - 11:30 am: 6 oz chicken, 1/4 cup peppers, 1 cup broccoli, about 2 cups of Romain lettuce, 1 small red potato
Meal 3 - 2:30 pm: Same as above
Meal 4 - Between 4:00pm and 4:30pm: Pre-workout (1 scoop whey, Creatine w/ green tea)
Meal 5 - Between 6:30pm and 7:00pm: Post Workout (1 scoop whey, Apple or Banana)
Meal 6 - 7:30ish: 6 oz turkey/steak/fish, 2 cups of veggies
Meal 7 - 10pm: 2 whole eggs, 2 egg whites or 1 scoop casean protein

My cheat meal is usually on leg day. Some sort of past or pretzels or something. Not a ton of them, maybe a handful.

[NewbieChris]

doing arms 5 days apart w/that split might over train biceps if you are doing a heavy back workout w/pulling movements - also, you don't find your triceps are pretty spent after doing shoulders ? What do you do for shoulders typically ?

I do arms twice a week cause my biceps suck.

Triceps are pretty strong and are usually not a problem when doing pushing movements due to my poor lifting sense when I was younger.

I do Alt. DB press, bb should presses on a smith maching, lat raises, front raises, it varies week to week. Always do alt. db raises though.

[Shibby]

My impression of your workout versus goal is you are over thinking it. Have you looked at a push/pull/leg routine?

[NewbieChris]

i think its a ton of cardio.

i think you are going to end up slowing down your metabolism and eat your muscle away in your tunnel vision effort to get rid of the fat on your stomach. you gotta realize bro, you may have access skin from when you were fat.

I may, but there is still fat on my abs, I can feel it. It jiggles when when I prance around.

Anyway, I am considering pulling back to 30 minutes, but I am still lost with the calories.

[NewbieChris]

My impression of your workout versus goal is you are over thinking it. Have you looked at a push/pull/leg routine?

Thats what I started to do, but I hate it. I was going to change to this spilt above.

I am currently doing:

Monday: Shoulders/Chest/abs
Tuesday: off
Wednesday: Legs/abs
Thursday: off
Friday: Back/Traps/abs
Saturday: Arms/abs
Sunday: off

I know normally people incorporate arms with the pulling/pushing movement, but I feel I need to isolate them because I need to work on my back/bicep development IMO.

[Bouncer]

I may, but there is still fat on my abs, I can feel it. It jiggles when when I prance around.

Anyway, I am considering pulling back to 30 minutes, but I am still lost with the calories.

you prance around often? :P

[Scrumhalf]

Chris, if you a reasonably lean already but are having trouble losing the remaining fat, especially around the belly, you may have to run a significant calorie deficit (say 50% of maintenance) coupled with a carb cycling routine. I have mentioned this to you a few times - you need to get off the bench and get in the game. Running at maintenance or slightly below and then wondering why you are not losing fat isn't going to get you anywhere.

[NewbieChris]

Chris, if you a reasonably lean already but are having trouble losing the remaining fat, especially around the belly, you may have to run a significant calorie deficit (say 50% of maintenance) coupled with a carb cycling routine. I have mentioned this to you a few times - you need to get off the bench and get in the game. Running at maintenance or slightly below and then wondering why you are not losing fat isn't going to get you anywhere.

I know, we've spoken about this before. I am interested in it, but I think its bullshit to have to pay for a fucking book on it to be quite honest. Also, I am not really feeling the severe calorie deficiency because I'll lose muscle mass. Im considering this still, but not sold yet.

[Scrumhalf]

I am interested in it, but I think its bullshit to have to pay for a fucking book on it to be quite honest. Also, I am not really feeling the severe calorie deficiency because I'll lose muscle mass. Im considering this still, but not sold yet.

LOL.... do you believe in compensating someone fairly for their work? It's your call - you are paying Lyle for his knowledge and his effort in putting it down on paper.

By the way, you are not going to lose a lot of muscle mass by running a significant calorie deficit as long as you still push the weights hard and keep up the protein intake at about 1.5g/lb of body mass. Keep track of your day to day progress in the gym - if you feel like you are losing strength, back off on the deficit.

[NewbieChris]

LOL.... do you believe in compensating someone fairly for their work? It's your call - you are paying Lyle for his knowledge and his effort in putting it down on paper.

In this instance I would likely not be getting my money worth.

[Scrumhalf]

In this instance I would likely not be getting my money worth.

You've got to be kidding! Lyle knows what he is talking about - he is recognized around the world as an authority on dieting and performance. You are getting a book and a method that has been proven to work time and time again. Go to bodyrecomposition.com and read their forums if you want to.

Look Chris, I'll be blunt. You seem to perfectly content coming on here and complaining endlessly about your diet but you refuse to do anything about it. Maybe it is just as well - carb cycling needs some serious discipline and perhaps it is not for you. Good luck - maybe you'll find something that will work for you one of these days.