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    So my gym has the separate building next door which is a MMA training room.

    They have tires, jump ropes, various bags handing from the ceiling, and all these other things. A lot of stuff. Anyway, I am doing intervals of jump rope and than getting this massive tire (similar to the one's used at the Ironman competitions) and flipping it over as fast as i can back and forth. This honestly killed me. After one interval of flipping the tire across the room and bringing it back i jump rope. I did this on Tuesday for about 15 minutes. I was nearly destroyed, mouth got really dry and I felt dehydrated. On top of that I had forgotten my waterbottle at home. So i walked next door, drank water and got on the elliptical for 15 minutes.

    I learned my lesson and tomorrow I am taking my waterbottle.

    What kind of things can i do to get my conditioning up and burn massive calories? I am wearing a hoodie every time I do cardio to keep sweating, and build a tolerance to the heat.

    I want to change up my cardio and not keep doing the same machines for 30-40 minutes 2-3 times a week. Its get boring and I feel like I am building a tolerance to it. I am hoping training in this room with the various equipment will help me.

    Majority of the trainers there are either powerlifters or bodybuilders. They hold cardio session like this at 4:30am and its open to anyone who shows up.

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    I actuall think flipping tires is useless. I never realy got anything outta it but i do it cuz i am told,lol. Find the MMA guys they will show you stuff that will make you cry. trust me it is no joke at all. but also be prepared to loose some size.

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    • #3
      DNA, what are your goals? If you are merely trying to lose fat along with gain size, all those conditioning drills are going to be detrimental as Rocket says. Just do intervals on an elliptical.

      If you want strength endurance and be able to go through a 2 minute round while your body is screaming for your to pack it in, then there are conditioning routines that will get you there.

      You eventually need to decide what your goals are.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
        I actuall think flipping tires is useless. I never realy got anything outta it but i do it cuz i am told,lol. Find the MMA guys they will show you stuff that will make you cry. trust me it is no joke at all. but also be prepared to loose some size.
        Yea I know man. I was thinking back to my wrestling days where we were beat everyday for 3-4 hours 6 days a week. It was nothing but conditioning.

        The goal was to wrestle hard for 6 minutes straight and not get tired. I reached that level and eventually I barely broke a sweat in a match. I wanna get back to that level without losing size though.

        If i will lose size, forget it than, I'll do cardio to keep my heart, lungs, and bodyfat in check.

        Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
        DNA, what are your goals? If you are merely trying to lose fat along with gain size, all those conditioning drills are going to be detrimental as Rocket says. Just do intervals on an elliptical.

        If you want strength endurance and be able to go through a 2 minute round while your body is screaming for your to pack it in, then there are conditioning routines that will get you there.

        You eventually need to decide what your goals are.
        Well my goals are to cut down while keeping my strength. I redid my whole diet and it sucks. I lost about 10lbs in 2 weeks. I started off at 248lbs and now down to 238lb just by dieting and exercising. Haven't been doing intense cardio, and I still lost weight due to diet.

        I am keeping carbs out until pre-workout meal, and post workout shake (only on lifting days) On cardio days no carbs postworkout at all.

        I also started training with my friend, and we're kicking eachothers ass's each week. Now we can spot eachother, go heavy, and kick out extra 2-3 reps.

        The whole point to cardio to me is keep my heart healthy, lungs healthy, and bring the bodyfat down over time.

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        • #5
          Yup stick to the tread mill bro. You will loose size and if you do it right you wont even want to lift weights the BB style anymore either cuz you will be to beat up,lol

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          • #6
            Going all out on the heavy bag, work your way up to 3 to 5 min sessions. Also intense 5-6 minute sparing sessions, remember specificity of exercise. Train intensely in a manner that most closely reflects your sport.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
              Yup stick to the tread mill bro. You will loose size and if you do it right you wont even want to lift weights the BB style anymore either cuz you will be to beat up,lol
              lol... yea I'll be doing that, thanks for your help.

              Originally posted by liftsiron View Post
              Going all out on the heavy bag, work your way up to 3 to 5 min sessions. Also intense 5-6 minute sparing sessions, remember specificity of exercise. Train intensely in a manner that most closely reflects your sport.
              :thumup: that workout will kick my ass

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              • #8
                when I am training for a fight I am always changing up my cardio routine to keep my body guessing and of course to not die of boredom. But typically what I will do is
                1. Jog 2 miles, then for the next two miles do 30 sec intervals of all out sprint (dont cheat) then 30 seconds of walking. Do that for the full two miles.
                2. On the treadmill, do 1 mile at 6 mph, then for the next mile put the incline to 12-15 and speed at 9 mph. Start off by doing 1 minute at 9 mph then jump off (take 20 second break) and make it 9.5 and do another min, then 10 mph for 45 seconds, 10.5 30 seconds, 11 mph 20 seconds and so on until you reach a full mile or 2 total
                3. On Track do 2 miles alternating between sprint and walk every quarter mile.

                These are probably the best things I do besides from an occasional bike ride, but sometimes i need to wear a sauna suit, try that you may die. But good luck
                Last edited by wunder; 07-05-10, 10:04 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by wunder View Post
                  when I am training for a fight I am always changing up my cardio routine to keep my body guessing and of course to not die of boredom. But typically what I will do is
                  1. Joke 2 miles, then for the next two miles do 30 sec intervals of all out sprint (dont cheat) then 30 seconds of walking. Do that for the full two miles.
                  2. On the treadmill, do 1 mile at 6 mph, then for the next mile put the incline to 12-15 and speed at 9 mph. Start off by doing 1 minute at 9 mph then jump off (take 20 second break) and make it 9.5 and do another min, then 10 mph for 45 seconds, 10.5 30 seconds, 11 mph 20 seconds and so on until you reach a full mile or 2 total
                  3. On Track do 2 miles alternating between sprint and walk every quarter mile.

                  These are probably the best things I do besides from an occasional bike ride, but sometimes i need to wear a sauna suit, try that you may die. But good luck
                  Jesus bro. That is fucking intense. I probably wouldn't survive. I'll give it a shot, thanks for your input

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by dna9488 View Post
                    Jesus bro. That is fucking intense. I probably wouldn't survive. I'll give it a shot, thanks for your input
                    DNA you dont wanna do that stuff bro it is the exact oppisite of what you want. he is training for caridovascular strength and endurance in a fight you want big beach muscles thoes are two of the opsite things.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                      DNA you dont wanna do that stuff bro it is the exact oppisite of what you want. he is training for caridovascular strength and endurance in a fight you want big beach muscles thoes are two of the opsite things.
                      Word.

                      If you are a bodybuilder, train like a bodybuilder.

                      If you are a fighter, train like a fighter.

                      Using a bodybuilding routine for CV fitness or strength or anything other than hypertrophy is misguided. And likewise, using a routine that is high on GPP and CV fitness will surely detract from your bodybuilding goals.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                        DNA you dont wanna do that stuff bro it is the exact oppisite of what you want. he is training for caridovascular strength and endurance in a fight you want big beach muscles thoes are two of the opsite things.

                        lol... yea man I know. As a switch up once in a while I doubt it will do anything.

                        Either way, I like these types of workouts. i can help my little brother train.

                        He's 14, but I wanna whip his ass :D

                        Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                        Word.

                        If you are a bodybuilder, train like a bodybuilder.

                        If you are a fighter, train like a fighter.

                        Using a bodybuilding routine for CV fitness or strength or anything other than hypertrophy is misguided. And likewise, using a routine that is high on GPP and CV fitness will surely detract from your bodybuilding goals.
                        Yup, agreed.

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