Do flyes have any mass building value?

[Scrumhalf]

I'm generally finishing chest up with 3 sets of flyes but I wonder if I am wasting my time with them. Maybe as pre-exhaustion they are useful, but I wonder if flyes have any value as a basic mass building exercise. Opinions?

[rado]

IMO no...Dips do and DB presses as well. I speak only from my experience; I have a big chest.

[Scrumhalf]

Yep, that's my routine... 4 sets of flat DB presses, followed by 4 sets of weighted dips. Not sure if I need to add anything else though. As I mentioned in my other thread, I just can't seem to do inclines.. something in my shoulder just doesn't like the angle and I've hurt myself more often doing inclines than any other exercise.

[rado]

When you do dips, how is your posture?

Straight or leaning really forward?

[Scrumhalf]

I try to it leaning forward, as I want to hit chest more than tris. I usually add a plate to a weight belt and try to get 10-12 reps. I follow up my chest with other tricep exercises(my Monday workout is chest and tris).

[rado]

I try to it leaning forward, as I want to hit chest more than tris. I usually add a plate to a weight belt and try to get 10-12 reps. I follow up my chest with other tricep exercises(my Monday workout is chest and tris).

Leave tri's out and only do chest...mine looks like this;

chest
arms
back
legs/hams/calfs
delts

My point to this is I specifically work THAT group. I don't do anymore that push/push /pull/pull stuff. I concentrate only on chest. I warm up with dips, 3 sets of 20 no weight and I really lean forward.

Do my regular sets and then finish with dips leaning really forward but this is mostly to stretch the fascia out even more after my training.

[redback]

I'm hoping so because my shoulders are fucked and I can't bench anymore

[Mr I]

Yes
110lb incline dumbbell flyes - YouTube

[Bouncer]

I'm generally finishing chest up with 3 sets of flyes but I wonder if I am wasting my time with them. Maybe as pre-exhaustion they are useful, but I wonder if flyes have any value as a basic mass building exercise. Opinions?

With your current goals in mind I would say yes you are wasting your time with flyes. Experiment a little. Drop flyes and only do basic presses/dips for a couple months. You can always add them back in later.

[jack tors]

yes

I would try warming up with fly's instead of at the end of the work out.

[BEAST]

I posted on your other post too. I'd try all the hammer machines. Chest press, incline press and the decline press.

[rado]

I posted on your other post too. I'd try all the hammer machines. Chest press, incline press and the decline press.

Yea forgot about those...I like them alot:thumup::weights:

[Scrumhalf]

Yeah, I'll add those. Thanks!

[auri]

I love doing cable flies. I pretend I'm squeezing a quarter between my pecs. Always get a good burn in my pecs that way.

[Scrumhalf]

Leave tri's out and only do chest...mine looks like this;

chest
arms
back
legs/hams/calfs
delts

I might do something like that later this year, but for now, I'm going to see how this split goes:

Mon - Chest/Tris
Tue - Legs
Wed - Back/bis
Thu - Shoulders
Fri - Legs

Sat/Sun - running/stretching/hiking, etc. No lifting. During the week, I might run in the morning, or for a half hour after lifting if I have time.