Drop sets, supersets, and negatives

[chuckz28]

How often do you guys incorporate drop sets, super sets, or heavy negatives to change things up? Do you even use these methods at all, or do you just continue progressive overload? Just curious how everyone feels about these methods.

[rado]

I just train normal, none of this drop sets, negatives, etc...or 21's or all these bro workouts I see at the gym lol.

I do however always keep the core ones....dips...pull ups...deads...box squat.

[chuckz28]

I've had good results with a heavy negative week in the past. Without at least one workout partner it can be very difficult to accomplish though. I haven't tried drop sets. Watching vids of pros and seeing a lot of them incorporate drop sets and super sets and it seems from the videos that they do at least drop sets frequently. I have only done a couple super sets but they did keep the heart rate up and felt pretty fun.

[chuckz28]

Anybody else use these methods?

[Mr I]

Have in the past

I find them bullshit

Refreshing topic though

[Mr I]

Jay Cutler was Mr Olympia numerous times. He never really trained to failure

Neither did haney or Arnold from what I've seen or Zane, and all of those hardly got injured

[BEAST]

I guess I kind of do the failure thingy. I use light weights and don't do less than 15-20 reps.
Today I hit shoulders, I was feeling good so I did seven exercises four sets of everything and minimum 15 reps even though I up the weights almost every set.

I did dumbbell lateral raises
Seated reverse pec-dec machine for posterior delts
Seated dumbbell presses
Upright rows
Bent over dumbbell raises
And finished with light seated lateral delt machine

[chuckz28]

Jay Cutler was Mr Olympia numerous times. He never really trained to failure

Neither did haney or Arnold from what I've seen or Zane, and all of those hardly got injured

Arnold made mention of using drop sets or running the rack in Pumping Iron to shock the muscle when it got used to a routine. According to this Bodybuilding com article, while he didn't invent them, he popularized them for bicep exercise. Bodybuilding.com - Creative Drop Setting - A Dozen Ways To Use Them!

[chuckz28]

I guess I kind of do the failure thingy. I use light weights and don't do less than 15-20 reps.
Today I hit shoulders, I was feeling good so I did seven exercises four sets of everything and minimum 15 reps even though I up the weights almost every set.

I did dumbbell lateral raises
Seated reverse pec-dec machine for posterior delts
Seated dumbbell presses
Upright rows
Bent over dumbbell raises
And finished with light seated lateral delt machine

The high rep thing is intriguing. I usually stick around that 8-12 rep range but occasionally Ill throw in a set of low reps for strength or high reps for endurance or pump. Have you always done higher rep ranges? I imagine you can get quite the pump but I was led to believe that high reps was more for muscle endurance than hypertrophy.

[Mr I]

Chuck
1) beast is forced to do high reps because he can't handle heavy weights. He tore himself up bad before
2) what bodybuilders do and what articles say they do are often different things. It's called marketing

You need to strike a balance between; stimulation, consistency and recovery that's all I'll say further

[BEAST]

Chuck
1) beast is forced to do high reps because he can't handle heavy weights. He tore himself up bad before
2) what bodybuilders do and what articles say they do are often different things. It's called marketing

You need to strike a balance between; stimulation, consistency and recovery that's all I'll say further

Thanks Mr I you are right. Because of my previous injuries I do go much lighter than I used to. :)

The high rep thing is intriguing. I usually stick around that 8-12 rep range but occasionally Ill throw in a set of low reps for strength or high reps for endurance or pump. Have you always done higher rep ranges? I imagine you can get quite the pump but I was led to believe that high reps was more for muscle endurance than hypertrophy.

Chuck when I say I go light I don't mean I lift 10 - 20 lbs on everything. For example I used to shoulder press 100lbs dumbbells easily for 8-10 reps but now I do 65lbs for four sets and 15 reps. And I made more gains this way than ever before.

I used to worry about lifting the weight but now all I feel is my muscles working and expanding to the max. :)