How Strong Are You? - Apples to Apples

[Racer814]

Originally posted by monroe
375:210= 1.7857, that indicates that your max strength and your endurance strength are appr. at par...not bad, just keep working, big boy :p

...now I need an aspirin....too smart for me...I'm an eediot

[nice6pac]

repping 225 is the nfl test for lineman 185 for skilled postiions

[Stonecold54]

Re: How Strong Are You? - Apples to Apples

Originally posted by Thor
We all have different body types so we really need to compare apples to apples. I suggest there are two measures that are closer to comparing relative strength than straight bench press. Of course, I like them because I think I compare fairly well on them: They are:

How many times can you bench your weight?

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What is this number if you apply a weight to height ratio to it?

example:

I am 6'0", 210lbs

I can bench my weight 35 times.

35 reps / ( 210lbs / 72 inches ) = 12

Therefore, a guy who is 5'8" and 210 with the same 35 reps has a ratio score of 11.33 and is not as strong on a relative basis.

I know it seems technical but I think it works, let me know your stats.

doesn't mean a thing. comparing two people is worthless with whatever formula you use. You have to take into account muscle fiber ratios, tendon/muscle attachement angles, ligament attachment, bone length, CNS effeciency and many mental aspects as well.

[tenn0titan]

Relative Strength is what you are taking about. In college we compared athletes relative strength by the weight they could do during the lift for a set number of reps and by their Lean Body Mass. LBM is your total weight minus your body fat.

My weight: 247 x .16 (bodyfat in decimal form) equals = 39.52. So my lean body mass is 207.48. I believe using LBM and not weight is the best way. If you wanted to get real detailed you would also use arm length. Height would not really matter. Just your arm length.

Peace

TT

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by tenn0titan
Relative Strength is what you are taking about. In college we compared athletes relative strength by the weight they could do during the lift for a set number of reps and by their Lean Body Mass. LBM is your total weight minus your body fat.

My weight: 247 x .16 (bodyfat in decimal form) equals = 39.52. So my lean body mass is 207.48. I believe using LBM and not weight is the best way. If you wanted to get real detailed you would also use arm length. Height would not really matter. Just your arm length.

Peace

TT

what about all the other factors I mentioned.?

[Thor]

Originally posted by tenn0titan
Relative Strength is what you are taking about. In college we compared athletes relative strength by the weight they could do during the lift for a set number of reps and by their Lean Body Mass. LBM is your total weight minus your body fat.

My weight: 247 x .16 (bodyfat in decimal form) equals = 39.52. So my lean body mass is 207.48. I believe using LBM and not weight is the best way. If you wanted to get real detailed you would also use arm length. Height would not really matter. Just your arm length.

Peace

TT

The reason I suggested height is that it is directly related to arm length, I was trying to account for the same metric.

Also, certainly if you want to be very thorough, Stonecold is correct. I just thought I would get more responses for a more simple formula.

[InjectMe]

I've done all this testing in college FB but never really understood... not a math person. Im 5'10'' 195 pounds and can do my weight around 25 times and my one rep is aout 320. Im not going to get into the math cuz like i said i dont really get it. I dont know if thats good or what but its seems i have pretty even endurance and strength... confusing!

[Nekrawulf]

best thread evar!!

[Thor]

Originally posted by Nekrawulf
best thread evar!!

Glad you liked it, I'll try something even more complex next time.

[Notorious]

bench bw id say 12-15 times. (180/72) 2. something

[Gary]

I vote for the simple strength to body weight ratio as a measure of total strength. If you can bench press 1.5 times your body weight you are in great shape no matter what your lean body mass or arm length or height is. If you can bench press 2.0 times your body weight, you are approaching superman.

For endurance strength, then some of the complicated formulas that people have been talking probably apply.

Gymnasts probably are the strongest guys for both endurance strength and strength to body weight ratio. They also are relatively short, 5'4" to 5'8".

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by Gary
I vote for the simple strength to body weight ratio as a measure of total strength. If you can bench press 1.5 times your body weight you are in great shape no matter what your lean body mass or arm length or height is. If you can bench press 2.0 times your body weight, you are approaching superman.

For endurance strength, then some of the complicated formulas that people have been talking probably apply.

Gymnasts probably are the strongest guys for both endurance strength and strength to body weight ratio. They also are relatively short, 5'4" to 5'8".

actually you can't just dismiss bone length like that. It is a very imprtant in lifts. bench press is more of a practiced exercsie, rather than a comparison exercise.