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  • My take on Waist Management

    I posted this on only 2 other forums and got an ok response.. Not bad for my first time writing something fitness related that isn't graded.. :)

    I do stress that this is mostly from the top of my now bald head, I've read, talked to other guys, and seen first hand on my own physique, this is hands-on type stuff in a sense..

    Big Pete Fox


    Guys like Dexter Jackson, Richard Jones, even Lee Haney and Frank Zane had one thing in common.. The small waistline that showed extreme taper in their upper to lower proportions.. Frank even went to limit by incorporating the vaccum pose into his routine, a pose many pros can't do these days because the waist issue isn't an issue anymore..

    Most people think a small waist is something you work for, not even.. It's a genetic occurance that you either have or don't, but it doesn't mean you can't have a waist smaller than you already have.. Ok, some may think to have a small waist if not predisposed to it, you'll lose muscle.. My waist only fluctuates between 29.5" competition weight, to the highest of 32" even at my heaviest (219).. It's indeed a genetic thing, like bicep peaks, but you can get your waist down to size if need be, no muscle loss..


    Abdominals, and Androgen use:
    Your abs respond, grow, and need rest such as anyother musclegroup.. Some seem determined to tirelessly crunch themselves to death for a slim waist, and ripped abs, when that isn't the way.. Many rely on androgen use to do this as well, just to resmble Jean-Pierre Fux on a bad day(if he has good days).. Waterweight, and estrogen related bloat take place in the abdomen of men, women tend to get it around the hips also.. Androgens will speed up muscle recovery, abs being the fastest recovering, this will mean immediate growth for your torso.. I've seen guys who used weights in their ab routines now have six-packs, yet appear to be pregnant.. When using androgens, concentrate on regular movements like crunches, or using the Swiss Ball for abwork.. This is stressed because the idea is building core strength, not making your appearance blocky, think The Hulk, not The Thing!

    IGF-1, and Insulin use:
    Regular IGF-1(Insulin-like Growth Factor-1) can cause hypertrophy of any muscle it's injected into.. Some go overboard with dosing, and end up with the Humpty Dumpty gut.. The large intestine has way too many receptor sites for IGF-1, which is the reasoning for the distention of the abdomen.. Insulin is a highly anabolic analogue, yet can be dangerous.. Misuse can lead to either dependency(this is debateable), fat gain, or even receptor burn out, death as well.. Also, some may feel that if they ingest high amounts of carbs with fat, they can maximize storage of the two in muscle.. Wrong! Carbs+Fat+Insulin= Large Gut! Fat with insulin makes it easier to be stored as such, this also hurts protein synthesis.. To keep your waistline under while on 'slin, keep most carbs low glycemic, and go for a fast-acting product like Humalog, which allows you to load on high GI carbs, yet it clears your body in 1hr or less.. Once again, insulin is dangerous if you miss the sides, or use too much at once, I don't condem or condone its use..

    IGF-LR3 and localized fat burning:
    The new version of an altered IGF-1 called LR3(Long Release-3) has been the rage so far in the BB circle.. Some say they get no effect, many I've spoken to one-on-one say it's even better than gear.. Once again, the duration and amount used could affect you efforts to a smaller waistline.. I've read that some have had distention, but after cycle it went away.. Also, spot sub-q shots have had an affect on surrounding fat deposits.. This is also true with Hgh, but LR3 seems so far to be faster in this aspect.. So far, IGF-1 LR3 looks promising as far as keeping lean, and muscle fullness..

    The REAL way to keep a small waist:
    Diet! Yes, clean eating will keep your abs showing no matter what.. I'm hovering at 200lbs, usually, my abs are not visible at 180lbs, 200lbs I normally look like a tub!

    Just an idea, here's what I do to maintain my genetic gift..

    1. Hydration: I drink plenty of water, 1 gallon a day, increase to half a gallon in hotter temps, and when dieting for a show.. The more water you take in, the less your body will hold, due to the steady surplus entering..

    2. No ab work!: I do basic core exercises to keep my mid-section strong, but I don't have a day where I go balls-out on my abs.. Doing 1000 crunches has no real affect on how your waist will respond.. Some are just lucky thier metabolism is high enough to keep their abs from becoming bigger than the rest of them.. I do, however, work my abs in a set routine 2 weeks out from a show, to keep them sharp, and to get them used to flexing for long periods of time.. Here's my simple routine for abs before a show:

    a) Hanging Leg raises- 2 sets@ 15 reps, no arm straps/ABoriginals crap, I hang, baby!

    b) Swiss Ball crunches- 3 sets@ 10 reps, slow and controlled

    c) Decline Bench crunches- 2 sets@ 10 reps

    Note I don't do oblique work, because that can also add to the blocky look.. Look at Brock Lesnar's waist next time you see him on TV, he has really thick obliques, he almost looks square because of it..

    3.Diet! Yes, I said "diet" yet again! Noone understands that you burn more calories than you ingest to burn fat, not kill yourself on a treadmill for 3 hours.. I still eat carbs, plenty of protein, and add fats like flax and olive oil when I need to cut up.. I never do cardio, because my training is intense enough to get those cals out.. I've had afew clients try a diet I formulated, and they lost a pretty impressive amount of weight, without cardio.. I've dieted down this way the past 3 years, and still seem to get it together for showtime..

    Don't take all this as scientific mumbo-jumbo I'm reading off somewhere, it's all from my head, brothers! I read alittle too much at times, and remember what I need to, so I'm passing along what I've read, or what I've spoken to actual guys/girls as far as this goes..

    If I left anything out, ask, I'll try to answer or find you a study on it..
    _________________

  • #2
    Thats great info :) Thanks!!

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    • #3
      Some very much needed info in my case... this holiday season i lost myself (and waist). Too much food(bad food) and beer is not a good combination. If you could give any insight on the dieting, just general concepts and such and some good low cal high protein foods. Thanks again

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      • #4
        nice post

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        • #5
          Originally posted by InjectMe
          Some very much needed info in my case... this holiday season i lost myself (and waist). Too much food(bad food) and beer is not a good combination. If you could give any insight on the dieting, just general concepts and such and some good low cal high protein foods. Thanks again
          The thing with beer and my body I noticed, depending on the types of carbs that go with it, I'm alright.. Also, remember to hydrate: two glasses water for every 3 beers..


          Funny thing: I was at a party this past friday, and I only had 3 bottles of Bass, and half a gallon of water.. I didn't get too many odd looks, since most of the party people were into lifting as well.. They just learned something new (to them, anyway), and now they go by that.. I got 5 emails about how much better they felt in the morning after drinking so much, then drinking twice as much water.. :)


          As far as low-cal high protein foods, I'm not entirely sure..

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          • #6
            Great Post & Info... As for the IGF-1 LR3, it has my interest..
            not sure what the dosage sgould be...???? Thanks..BAILEY

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BAiley
              Great Post & Info... As for the IGF-1 LR3, it has my interest..
              not sure what the dosage sgould be...???? Thanks..BAILEY
              Thanks for the compliments, brother.. :)

              IGF-1 LR3 is dependent on you, you can start at 20mcg once or twice a day, or most guys go with 40-80mcg twice a day.. I plan to try it later on, so I'd go with a conservative(and money-saving) dose of 20mcg twice a day.. I believe 1mg will last 25 days at that dose, don't hold me to that, I'll find the info and post it..

              Or, someone who knows can chime in.. ;)

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              • #8
                Thanks.....big help..The more info. the better.. Hopefully I can find some on it too!

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                • #9
                  good info

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                  • #10
                    What is this DIET thing you speak of oh foxy one?

                    Very good post pete, and agree completely.

                    Waiting for the next.

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                    • #11
                      DIET? Who makes that stuff? Is it in a pill, powder or is it in an injectable form? What about cycling? More info on diet, please....

                      Good stuff, Pete

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                      • #12
                        Hahaha! You guys are too much.. :D

                        Diet? yeah, diet can work wonders.. I think my next article should be on dieting without cardio, it's years in the making.. ;)

                        Simple rule I go by as far as dieting: calories out greater than calories in.. I eat like normal, yet I burn more than I take in.. Easy, yes?

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                        • #13
                          That was well written and the advice is solid.
                          I always cringe when I see guys doing the
                          side to side oblique dumbell waist widening
                          routine. Keep them coming.

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                          • #14
                            great post bro.. .I tell people every day not to do crazy ab work. . .I never do weighted stuff and to be honest I don't really do much ab work period. . .other than showing a few gym members the ab ball and how to do proper crunches a few times a week (for a total of about 20 reps max) I have not really done serious ab work for years. .and my waistline stays really small even at 235+ lb at 5'9 . .never over 34 and I get down to under 30 for contest . .I think it was 29 at my last one.
                            SAY NO to oblique work. .hear hear!

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by canadagold
                              I have not really done serious ab work for years. .and my waistline stays really small even at 235+ lb at 5'9 . .never over 34 and I get down to under 30 for contest . .I think it was 29 at my last one.
                              SAY NO to oblique work. .hear hear!
                              I think the biggest my waist has been was 34", at 202lbs now, also 5'-9", I'm holdin' on to a 30.5" line.. ;)

                              So, 235+ same height as myself, eh? I now know what that would look like! :)

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