women with HGH experiences

[Dallasdoll]

Hi ladies, Im thinking about starting HGH and want to hear some other peoples experiences beforehand. I did a search in the womens section and didnt find much information. I am 36, 5'6", 120 lbs, BF around 10 or 11 %. Im hoping that it will help with my sleep (which is terrible), my skin (previous primo cycle did a number on my skin, just hasnt been the same since), and if possible a little more fat loss (I seem to have a little I hold in my tricep that I just cant get rid of). I was thinking about 1 iu for 4 days and then 3 days off????? Also Ive heard the first month or so is terrible. Does everyone feel tired and lousy the first month? My roommate has taken it and she said she had a rough first month and by month 3 her skin looked great and she was doing well and then after month 4 she said she started breaking out terribly on her forehead (still has cyst like acne there) and started gaining weight with no change in diet and no change in any other supplements or AAS???? Because of her experience which is the only one Ive seen Im trying to do some more research to make my decision. BTW, the brand I would be using would be jintropin and I was considering combining it with anavar. Thanks, Chelsea

[sana]

No sure why your roommate broke out on GH, I've never heard of it happening. RS has done a few months of GH here and I do believe lethargy was one side she experienced - but I'll let her speak for herself.

As far as 1 iu for 4 days then 3 days off... I'm not sure that will be enough to see any results. How many months do you have a supply for?

I did 1 iu for about 1.5 months late last year but stopped because my diet sucked. The GH can cause some insulin sensitivity so if your diet is high in carbs, you may gain weight instead of losing it.

[Dallasdoll]

Sana,
Thanks for the reply. I have enough to go 1 iu a day if that would be better. I was told that you were supposed to take a few days off as to not suppress your natural HGH production too much????? Good info to know about the carbs. Where should I keep my carbs at while taking it? Ive always kept my carbs really low on AAS but never experienced HGH. I was told that if my carbs were too low that I would experience hypoglycemia and if they are too high I will gain fat so what is the ideal medium for carbs diet wise? THanks, Chelsea

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by Dallasdoll
Sana,
Thanks for the reply. I have enough to go 1 iu a day if that would be better. I was told that you were supposed to take a few days off as to not suppress your natural HGH production too much????? Good info to know about the carbs. Where should I keep my carbs at while taking it? Ive always kept my carbs really low on AAS but never experienced HGH. I was told that if my carbs were too low that I would experience hypoglycemia and if they are too high I will gain fat so what is the ideal medium for carbs diet wise? THanks, Chelsea

Well, first things first. GH is good for cutting, and good for putting on size while taking AAS. So, which will you be using it for? And how many months' supply do you have? 1 kit of the Jintropin should last you about 1.5-2 mos. As for its benefits it may have to help with your tricep, I don't think you should spend the money just for that. The problem places on your body will burn it off when you have built the muscle AND your diet is in serious check.

That being said- I took GH last year for about 9 months. I noticed significant changes in the way my body looks, and had some fat loss. However the most fat loss I had, was combining the GH with a good cutting diet between cycles. I have been back on it now for about 3 months. I started with the Serostim, @ 2 IU's a day, and then switched to the Jintropin about a month ago. The Jintropin was so intense, I had to lower the dose to 1.5 IU's. The first month on any GH is hell. You'll wake up with numb hands and arms, but your sleep will improve. I sleep like a rock. Once I switched over to the Jin, it was like my sides all over again. However, I have seen no real skin benefits with it. Now, I am 27, so it's effects on you may be different. I have noticed maybe a little less wrinkling, but the thing that has helped my face the most has been healthy fats.

[Dallasdoll]

RS,
Thanks for replying. My main objectives with the HGH would be to improve my skin texture ( I have some enlarged pores from previous cycles and Im 36 so I have some lines around my eyes and mouth and some sun damage), help get some sleep ( I sleep terribly) , improve joints, and as a side possibly loose some fat but Im not so concerned about that because I dont have a lot to begin with. Im always happy to get some extra muscle mass although that isnt my primary objective. I have 2 kits of 100 ius of JIntropin. I was planning to take it with 10 mg anavar. Any advice of dosing or diet? Thanks, Chelsea

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by Dallasdoll
RS,
Thanks for replying. My main objectives with the HGH would be to improve my skin texture ( I have some enlarged pores from previous cycles and Im 36 so I have some lines around my eyes and mouth and some sun damage), help get some sleep ( I sleep terribly) , improve joints, and as a side possibly loose some fat but Im not so concerned about that because I dont have a lot to begin with. Im always happy to get some extra muscle mass although that isnt my primary objective. I have 2 kits of 100 ius of JIntropin. I was planning to take it with 10 mg anavar. Any advice of dosing or diet? Thanks, Chelsea

Well, it may not help with your joints. GH actually can aid the development of carpel tunnel. AS far as my pores and laugh lines go, I haven't seen any great reductions. If you have 2 kits, that should last you about 4 months. GH is most effective when taken for long periods of time...6+ months. How long were you wanting to run the Var? IMHO, I think you need to stay at 1IU of the Jin 5 days a week. The days off don't necessarily have to be consecutive. At the 4 days on, 3 off, your GH levels would get too messed up for it to be as quite as effective. Also, you should probably take it at night rather than in the morning.

As far as your diet goes, are you wanting to lean up, mostly?

[Dallasdoll]

Im a little confused as to how to eat while taking the HGH. Someone on another board told me to make sure and get enough carbs or I would become hypoglycemic and someone on this board told me not to eat too many carbs. I was thinking about taking 10mg a day of anavar and trying to gain a little more for the next month or so and then start trying to lean up. As you can tell Im still in the thinking and planning stage of this since Ive never used HGH before. Any diet suggestions? I know you are great when it comes to that. Chelsea

[trip]

Eat whatever YOU normally would to grow.

The hugeness now in bodybuilding comes from:

A. Insulin & GH & AS......biggest baddest combo

B. GH & AS.........2nd best

C. AS

So, ( haven't read all your posts so don't know your AS background ) , anyways, you have seemed to have done some good research, are dedicated and smart, so NO. 1 you should be fine and have much success.

The var dose is about right as well as GH dose, based on your goals etc.

Only thing to note is, and this is rare, some folks do not respond to GH, again rare but happens.

The most common side is tiredness and sluggishness due to unsulin resistance, if this happens you need a low dose of T-3, about 12.5 mg , cause if you get the sluggishness it will not go away and it is horrible feeling.

Also try not to have too high of expectations most who report phenomenal results are taking high high doses when it comes too fat loss, or they combine it with high doses of T-3.

Based on your cycle you should look for all the good stuff, great recovery, tons of energy and strentgh, good muscle growth, and possibly in lagging areas, and good sleep.

You also must realize alot of info reported in media is research based, and most of the subjects don't eat right or work out and are stressed out, so when they get on GH some have phenomenal results.

Your already do everything possible for a healthy lifestyle so it will be a little icing on the cake most likely, not the whole party.

hOped that helped
good luck

PS-just for info purposes I'm not a women with GH exp. , I'm a guy with GH exp.

[redsquirrel]

My only things to add to what trip just said are this:

You do not become hypoglycemic from GH. Insulin, is much more risky when you become hypoglycemic because you can go into insulin shock causing diabetic comas. The reason anyone not doing insulin becomes hypoglycemic, is from too long in between meals, and/or not enough carbs before doing a serious amount strenuous activity.

As far as the T-3 goes, I do not recommend it. In my experience, the sluggishness has ceased after about the 3rd or 4th month. And, if your intake of protein is not high enough, it can eat muscle. Call me crazy, but messing with the thyroid, and eating muscle really don't excite me. I've worked too long and too hard to burn up muscle to just to try to burn some more fat; when it can be done by diet and cardio...and of course GH!! LOL Many people swear by it, but I have yet to see it's benefits. I may do it for my upcoming shows for a FEW weeks, but really no reason to do it any other time. Main reason I would do would be to help lose the extra bit of fat I may hold, THAT'S IT.

As for your diet..do you know your LBM?

Well, if you're wanting to put on a couple and then lean out, how long are you going to run the Var? Please let me know what your diet is like right now, so I can make necessary changes!

[Dallasdoll]

I tend to agree with RS on the T3. Im willing to deal with a little sluggishness to avoid messing with my thyroid and possibly loosing some hard earned muscle.

As for my LBM, I cant remember but I weigh 120 and was at 10.2% BF from underwater weighing about a month ago. Guess I need to go do the math but Im eating while I type because Im in a hurry.

As for my diet.....

Get up 8 am- turkey breast or protein drink and either apple or yogurt

11 - chicken breast (sometimes 2), brocolli or some side

2- either chicken breast or lean ground beef with potato or rice

5- either chicken breast or lean ground beef (whatever I didnt have at 2) and some vegetable and usually an apple or banana

8 or 9- turkey sandwich with turkey, swiss cheese, whole wheat bread

That is what I ate yesterday. I seem to shoot for 6 meals a day and rarely get more than 5 in, but always 5. I have no idea how to tweak this for HGH. Currently Im not taking anything other than typical supplements. Thanks, CHelsea