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[perryjd1]

i stand corrected - i had heared otherwise - yet this (See above) is what I experienced when I got off of 2-3 weeks of 1-ad and before i knew about PCT. So you know though there are some posts that suggest that the lack of natural test after a cycle is an open window for est. Or that was what I took out of the post.

Thanks spidey

[spidey]

It's not that lack of test opens the door for more estrogen. In fact the opposite is true. It is the imbalance of cortico to androgenic steroids that causes the crash. Corticosteroids are catabolic (there go your gains) and lack of test=lack of labido.

The ONLY way our (male) bodies produce estrogen is by aromatization of test. No test, nothing to produce estrogen from.

1-AD is pretty HPTA supressive in it's own right. I can see where a crash could occur without the proper PCT regimen.

[wildwillie]

Holy Shit. That`s enough information to make my head spin, but good information none the less. Thank You everybody. Thank You Spidey for your technical background. The more I read, the more I think "Geeeezzz, why not jut lift like I always have (natural) and avoid all of this horse shit?" I would almost rather just lift and eat and not have to worry all the time about what I am taking and for how long, etc, etc, etc.....