1st Cycle

[Slashmonay]

Hi, ive reached that brick wall in my training, and decided to do a cycle. ive been researching for a while now, and still havent decided what to do, budget is at 500$ US for the cycle, so cant afford that much. would like to get the LEAST water retention as possible, but of course i cant avoid it. i was thinking something on the lines of sustanon/deca, but hearing about deca dick changed my mind on that...any ideas? like how many amps/of which and price approx? would help a LOT. i know there are a lot of experienced steroid users around here =)

[shortz]

If you are looking to be on a budget, stay away from sust. That stuff is so over priced on the street. Instead, go with a single ester, or, find some omnas, they are the same exact thing as sust. Cyp or enanthate would be a great way to start off a cycle.

To save money, you could even go with a test only cycle and maybe kick start with dbol. With the extra money, you will be able to get nolva/clomid and maybe even some aromatase or liquidex for bloating.

[hitmansb]

For a first cycle, KIS...keep it simple. Test only is always the way to go on a first cycle, as you want to learn how well your body tolerates test (hard to tell which drug is causing sides if you are stacking). I'd go with test cyp 400mg/week for ten or twelve weeks. This is fairly inexpensive. If you find you're holding water, you could pick up some liquid letro cheap from one of our board sponsors. Also, by going this test only route, you'll be able to afford to pick up some Nolvadex...should have this on hand for an estrogenic side emergency should one flare up...and you'll need it for post-cycle therapy even if you don't experience estrogenic sides.

You could go with sustanon at an amp every third day for ten weeks, but this is dependant on you getting it at a good price. Water retention is less of an issue with sustanon. Personally, Id go with the single ester test for a first cycle though...save the multiple shots per week for a future cycle.

[ROCKETW19]

yep like hitmansb said 400 mgs test e 10-12 weeks i like 12 better. get some nolva also and youll be way under your 500$ mark. good luck.

[jipped genes]

yep a test only cycle is gold. dbol at 25mg ed for the first 4 weeks would be a nice bonus for sure.

[JUICE]

just do a simple Test-e only cycle. Try going at 400-500mgs a week for 10 weeks max. U'd get awesome results there.

[Slashmonay]

my bad

[Slashmonay]

will my abs also grow from this cycle? or will my belly just stick out from water retention? i already have noticable abs, at around 7-8% bodyfat. abs really arent as important to me as overall size/strength though, just curious.

[Primal Instinct]

We don't discuss pricing on this website, Slash. If anything, PM a mod for questions of this nature. If you don't know what Test E is then you need to research more in the Anabolic profiles section. Read everything that you can get your hands on before you buy anything.

[JUICE]

heres some useful info on test-e bro

http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...p?threadid=183


Hey brother, dont post stuff like that cause it attracts the wrong kind of people. If u need questions about things, help like PI said, pm a mod and he sure will help u out.

About the abs, well test-e retains alot of water, well for me. Right now im eating clean and all and have lost some size in the gut area, not too bloated like the previous cycles. Im drinking enough water to not get bloated, it s just not right for me. But dont worry if u get some fat in it, hey ur working for size and bulk, doing a cutter later on will fix it.

[Slashmonay]

think i should wait till after the summer?

[JUICE]

Originally posted by Slashmonay
think i should wait till after the summer?

my best advice is to read as much as u can, gather information on what u really want, the types of roids and what they do and their purposes. Like not all are created equally. Like Test will build size, as to Halo more for strength and hardness. U kno what I mean, things like that.

But yeah, read more and all on what u want and if u do decide to wait for the end of the summer have everything in hand, including PCT in hand.

[Slashmonay]

If i am 19 and a pretty slow maturer, (dont have a full beard yet etc) you think this stuff will make me mature faster? like start looking older ? i know corny question, and if your going to say wait till im older not going to have an impact cuz im doin it anyways

[JUICE]

Originally posted by Slashmonay
If i am 19 and a pretty slow maturer, (dont have a full beard yet etc) you think this stuff will make me mature faster? like start looking older ? i know corny question, and if your going to say wait till im older not going to have an impact cuz im doin it anyways

well I start juicing when I was 18 in high school. I know I was young but did a Sostenon cycle and all went well. Did my second cycle back in 2002 and third in 2003 summer. About maturing faster, I dont know how to answer that one, it all depends on the person I guess. Ive had friends who juiced and still are the same as when they were in school. About looking older, hmmmm well for me I grew hair faster now than when I was ur age. Im 22 btw. I grow hair faster now on my moustache and beard, shave 2 times a day at times , depending.

On side effects, here one that occurred to me. More bodily hairs on back. Heres my old thread on it.

http://www.superiormuscle.com/vbulle...ght=back+hairs

its an old thread from 7/2003 last summer.

[Slashmonay]

im also working with a small frame. i am about 5'4 tall, lol. before i started training i was a whopping 120 lbs and had about a 13% bodyfat. 9 months later, at 137 lbs and 7% bodyfat, im hoping having a small frame doesnt make me look Freakish after doing a cycle, my whole family accuses me of taking steroids already just from natural progress. probably going to go with 250mg/week for 10 weeks of test cyp.