First Cycle Of Enantat QV 250, Need Help

[beefcake]

Originally posted by buccaneer19
im not like you and study the shit everyday of my fuckin life i've got better things to do

This statement right here shows you'll never be ready. You have no desire to research on your own. You'd probably do whatever the fuck anyone tells you to. A statement like this shows you have no business being on these compounds if this is how you feel. Lord knows if you feel the same about your diet and training, you probably have better things to do. :mad:

[buccaneer19]

ok, i understand that everyone's tryin to help here just do it in a better tone. however, i apologize for my comments because i guess i don't know what i'm talking about. so the best thing to do would to be just forget the gear for a while? i just see so many people my age and even younger and it seems to help them so much i wanted to give it a shot and talk to people who knew a lot about it instead of getting the info from them

[beefcake]

Originally posted by buccaneer19
ok, i understand that everyone's tryin to help here just do it in a better tone. however, i apologize for my comments because i guess i don't know what i'm talking about. so the best thing to do would to be just forget the gear for a while? i just see so many people my age and even younger and it seems to help them so much i wanted to give it a shot and talk to people who knew a lot about it instead of getting the info from them

These compounds take the strictest discipline when it comes to diet and training. Something you haven't obtained yet. Not to mention you have no need for them at the age you are at. You're young enough that your body is raging with test, so why try to inject more? You need to take time to develop a base, take a few years to get your shit down pat. You think these guys are doing all good, but most of them don't know two and a half shits about what they're doing. Most of them have probably already shrunk their balls to the size of berries and grown some bitties, and have no idea why.

[buccaneer19]

ok, i appreciate it dude. at what age did you start with the gear and how long had you been dieting and training?

[beefcake]

Originally posted by buccaneer19
ok, i appreciate it dude. at what age did you start with the gear and how long had you been dieting and training?

I started when I was 23. Started off with ph's first. Been training half assed since I was 14. Didn't get my shit together and get serious til I was 18. All protein and creatine for almost 5 years. Probably should've did that for longer and held off, but what's done is done.

[buccaneer19]

did the protein and creatine show you good gains? could you maybe give me some advice of the best supplements to buy? what about this on cycle/off cycle? have you ever heard of it?

[beefcake]

Originally posted by buccaneer19
did the protein and creatine show you good gains? could you maybe give me some advice of the best supplements to buy? what about this on cycle/off cycle? have you ever heard of it?

On/off cycle is a ph. It's crap, a waste of money. There are better ph's out there. Either or, you'd want to stay away from ph's for now. You have no need for them at your age. They will also do you no good if your game plan isn't solid. I think protein and creatine should be the staple of any athletes diet. I put on about 45lbs in 1-1/2 yrs of serious training on these and food alone.

[buccaneer19]

ok thanks dude. i guess creatine will be the way i go with some intense training and good eating. how about a mass tech and cell tech mix would that work well?

[beefcake]

Originally posted by buccaneer19
ok thanks dude. i guess creatine will be the way i go with some intense training and good eating. how about a mass tech and cell tech mix would that work well?

Muscle tech stuff is overpriced. Just get some regular creatine mono from optimum nutrition. 2000g is like $39 and will last you 3 months at 20g a day. If you can afford it, then go ahead and add in some ala, which is all cell tech is anyway. Get a bucket of whey from allthewhey.com and you're on your way. Citrulline malate is pretty good shit too, not much for adding more muscle, but great for some energy for strength and endurance.

[Bouncer]

Its not about suppliments. Its all about diet. You need to eat 7-8 times a day. Eat at least a gram of protein per pound of body weight. Food is the most anabolic thing on earth. Eat eat and eat some more.

[buccaneer19]

thanks buddy, i seriously appreciate it, guess i'll look into the gear some other time after i hang around the boards and learn some more about it

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by buccaneer19
thanks buddy, i seriously appreciate it, guess i'll look into the gear some other time after i hang around the boards and learn some more about it

Good to hear. Also, I realize you see kids in school that are juicing that have gotten big. I realize that makes you want to do it to. But what they dont realize that food could have done the same thing if they had only taken the time to learn what to eat and when.

[mbritton2]

and that is why I luv this board because everyone here tells u how it is

[Primal Instinct]

Originally posted by buccaneer19
ok thanks dude. i guess creatine will be the way i go with some intense training and good eating. how about a mass tech and cell tech mix would that work well?

buccaneer19,

Go read all you can on our nutrition and training boards. It has excellent info on diet and training with great support from our mods and members. This site is only a little over a year old but Bouncer put together some of the best mods that anyone could ask for- all on one site. It's like orange juice concentrate or something, lol. The members here are at all different levels of experience and you shouldn't feel afraid to ask us anything- as long as you read everything available about it in the forums first. This site is a treasure chest of very honest and helpful information and the peeps here are kewl too. Relax a little bit, read, lean and enjoy the site. There is no pretentiousness here. Oh yeah, I almost forgot- welcome to our family.:cool:

[buccaneer19]

thanks guys. i'm lookin to gain some good mass and strength over the next year or so and i'm gonna need ya'lls help throughout it.