What should I use for cutting

[therock]

Ok I am having a very hard time deciding what I want to do. I know I want to bulk I also want to at least drop some b/f so I can see my damn abs. I am pretty lean but all my body fat went to my stomach! I am 188lbs right now but plan to be right at 210lbs or something close to that. I am 5'9''. This will be my 3rd cycle but I consider it my 2nd because my first was wasted by surgery and I lost everything. I will lay it all out for yall.
1st cycle:
Brovel t2 @600mg 12wks
Salud Labs Dbol 50mgs ed 4wks
went from 150lbs to 185lbs (lost it all because of surgery) went down to 145lbs but got back to 152lbs naturally.
2nd cycle:
Denkall dbol 50mgs ed wks 1-6
Tornel Sustenon 250 @ 750mgs wks 1-14
QV Decca 300 @ 450mgs wks 1-14
clomid wks 16-18
went from 152lbs to 194lbs.
Now I am 188lbs been that weight for awhile I have been off for almost the sametime I was on. I am starting the next cycle sometime in Oct. I want to cut not that much just a little but do want something that is effective w/o changing my diet that much. I intake about 200g of protein right now sometimes 225g but when I get back on I am bumping it up to about 300g. I also intake at least 3500 calories a day. I dont eat fast food what so ever. I work out each part of my body once a week. Dont want to overtrain. About 4 workouts for each bodypart. I do 4 sets of 10 after 2 warmups for every workout. Minimal rest between sets. I dont know what else I need to put, if anything let me know.
This is my next cycle. Keep in mind the onlything that is missing is the cutting stuff so please help me out on that stuff. Kind of new to cutting since I have always been thin.
3rd cycle:
Sustenon 250@500mg wks 1-4, 750mgs wks 4-8 1000mgs wks 8-12 and back down to 750wks 12-14.
Either decca 300 or EQ200 wks 1-14 If its decca 450mgs and if its EQ 600mgs
Dbol @50ms ed wks 1-5
Now for the cutting I need yalls help. Thank you in advance.

[therock]

Oh also first cycle I did use clomid sameway I used it on 2nd cycle and I will also use clomid again this cycle. Just wanted yall to know that.

[house1]

first of all diet and cardio will be your key as far as cutting

the drug side of it you can run prop , tren, and winny -

[therock]

So your saying I should run all 3 of those on this cycle. If so when should I start using them.

[Jarconis]

I good long cutting cycle is enth/eq/tren, also instead of winny I think m1t is also an excellent cutting drug, no water retention but also keeps strength up during a reduced caloric intake.

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by therock
So your saying I should run all 3 of those on this cycle. If so when should I start using them.

Cutting in my opinion is simple. Pick one drug and just use it to maintain your muscle mass. Your goal isn't to gain muscle just retain what you have. Diet and exercise will be the method to your goal. The steroid will keep your muscle where you are. if I had my choice it would tren at 50-75mg/day with 75mg of proviron a day. Will keep you dry and hard to see your progress.

[therock]

Yes but I do want to get a little bigger. Could I run the dbol, sust, and eq aswell with the tren and proviron at the end? I am not happy with my size just yet. I think if I could be a little bigger and a little more cut I would be happy. Will they both be effective with the rest of my cycle?

[hitmansb]

I notice you ran a lot of test on your second cycle(750mg/week), and are planning to go even higher (a full gram/week) on your third. Is there a reason that you've gone to such a high dose so early on in your AAS usage? Since your first experience started out with test at 750mg/week, you haven't even given yourself a chance to evaluate how well you gain at lower dosages, and that is a mistake IMO. Try a lower dose of test this time, expecially since you are looking to lean out.

[therock]

Yeah you are right about that. I was thinking at just leaving it at 750mg at the highest. My friend was the one who told me to add more test but reading some threads I think I will keep it lower. Also so what yall think about using the tren and proviron at the end?

[Severedties]

Originally posted by hitmansb
I notice you ran a lot of test on your second cycle(750mg/week), and are planning to go even higher (a full gram/week) on your third. Is there a reason that you've gone to such a high dose so early on in your AAS usage? Since your first experience started out with test at 750mg/week, you haven't even given yourself a chance to evaluate how well you gain at lower dosages, and that is a mistake IMO. Try a lower dose of test this time, expecially since you are looking to lean out.

I agree. There is no need to bring out the big guns, so to speak, so early in your career. Stick to what works, and once it stops working then up the stregnth and the more advanced drugs.

[therock]

so would test, decca, and dbol be good enough or should I add the eq aswell? The only reason I want the eq in the cycle is because it helps with hunger and I want to open up my appitite a little?

[Cmsmallzz]

I'm not sure of the dosing on those brands of d-bol being correct but 50mg of d-bol seems like a bit much at this point. I used it in my first 2 cycles at 20mg along with 400-500mg test and blew up! I can't imagine what dosages you'd have to take after a few years of juicing. My first 5 cycles I never went above 500mg of test. And even after that I went to 600mg. Also if your looking to bulk this cycle forget about trying to get abs. Wait until you come off and diet down.

[therock]

Well I know I should went lower when I started but I was informed wrong. But if dbol doesnt work anymore in a couple of years then I will move to low dosages of anadrol. Also what yall think about eq for hunger?

[therock]

Bump.

[therock]

Oh I am no longer going to use any cutting gear onlything I am going to use is anavar if I can get it.