HGH & Gyno!!

[BAiley]

Ok...just finished cycle three weeks ago...I always have to hit the
Nolva hard the 3-6 weeks following as I get the puffy nips( after all test is stopped)and
right now a little lump behind mt left nip...I took 3 IU ED
jintropin and still am off cycle...My question is this...

Can the HGH hurt the gyno? Should I stop the HGH until
all gyno has passed? I have heard this debate before...what
can anyone tell me about it/// Don't need gyno, thats for sure!!

[DS-COUSIN]

The MODS or someone will be able to help you out on this. I just wanted to say good luck.

Were you taking any Nolva during your cycle?

[Bouncer]

Yes HGH can lead to gyno in some people.

[wheyman]

Try Arimidex or Letrozole for the gyno..

Not sure about the HGH though, The Bouncer or Stonecold54 would know.

[BAiley]

yes, I took 10 mgs Nolva Ed uring cycle...I didn't think HGH could
actually cause gyno, but wondered if it made it worse sometimes
by helping it grow...when gyno hits, I worry about everything..
Thanks for the help....By MOnday i will know if its going away...

[DS-COUSIN]

Originally posted by BAiley
yes, I took 10 mgs Nolva Ed uring cycle...I didn't think HGH could
actually cause gyno, but wondered if it made it worse sometimes
by helping it grow...when gyno hits, I worry about everything..
Thanks for the help....By MOnday i will know if its going away...

Depending on what your predisposition is to GEAR, 10 mg of NOLVA might not be enough during your cycle. Bouncer, SC, or Doom can chime in on this. I am thinking that you already get "puffy nips" after a cycle, maybe kicking your dosage up to 20 mg per day during or changing the type of gear you are taking, maybe something with less chance of conversion.

[BAiley]

Thanks DS....right now I am taking 40 mgs ED, and might up it
to 60 mgs until it settles...I do seem to be very prone, but I always take enough Nolva to stop it...I need to try TREN,
next cycle....Deca seems to be ok....Its the TEST that gets me..
Even at 300 mgs week, when I come off I have to fight it...
Especially if HCG is involved...My ratios must get bad
when I come off....

[DS-COUSIN]

Originally posted by BAiley
Thanks DS....right now I am taking 40 mgs ED, and might up it
to 60 mgs until it settles...I do seem to be very prone, but I always take enough Nolva to stop it...I need to try TREN,
next cycle....Deca seems to be ok....Its the TEST that gets me..
Even at 300 mgs week, when I come off I have to fight it...
Especially if HCG is involved...My ratios must get bad
when I come off....

Bailey-why not bump it to 60 mgs until it's gone and then bring it down to 40 mgs? Unless some of the MODS say otherwise, how could this hurt?
Sounds like you need to stay away from TEST...it's your cryptonite. Personally, I am on my first cycle of TREN, it's fast acting and no 'ball-up.' No discomfort like Enanthat. No water retention. The EOD inject is a pain for me, but I feel goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood. I FEEL STRONG and READY for my LIFTS. The downside to TREN is that you can't cycle on as long as you do with TEST; to toxic... 4-6 weeks recommended (75-100 mg), but I have heard 8 weeks for a more experienced BB-enthusiast.

[DS-COUSIN]

Originally posted by rado
4-6 weeks only huh?:confused:


I've seen posts were most of us use it for longer than 8-10wks:rolleyes:

I used it for almost 16wks and was fine, just had blood work done every 4 weeks.

RADO-Since I am not a BB'er, my goal is not to hall ass through something without research and caution. I will progessively increase the time I use TREN, but have to assess after my usage.

I too have heard of longer cycle times, but no matter how you slice it, toxic is toxic....you know what I'm sayinnnnnnnnnnnnn'

[thehamme]

If you have gyno caused by GH nolva wont help, its prolactin induced so bromo is needed.

thehamme

[Doom]

GH induced gyno is very rare, it would be from what you are using, test, deca, tren, more than the GH

[Akamai]

The combo of GH with the other prolactin producing drugs tren deca can be bad gyno inducers.


The major prolem with running trenbolone for long runs is the suppresion. It will shut you down hard.

[BAiley]

Originally posted by Akamai
The combo of GH with the other prolactin producing drugs tren deca can be bad gyno inducers.


The major prolem with running trenbolone for long runs is the suppresion. It will shut you down hard.

Yea, I was wondering about the HGH helping it grow...just have to watch it and make sure it goes away...I might stop the HGH
for a week or two to make sure...with all the Nolva I am taking...

[Tiabin]

Not entirely sure why this is never brought up, but theres been numerous studies were tamoxifen citrate (nolvadex) has been shown to reduce, or eradicate longterm gyno (from puberty, oldage, or otherwise). Most of the studies were short term (3 months was longest). I think probably the best way to go for *real* gyno is about 20mg ED of tamoxifen for 3-5 months.

[BAiley]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tiabin
Not entirely sure why this is never brought up, but theres been numerous studies were tamoxifen citrate (nolvadex) has been shown to reduce, or eradicate longterm gyno (from puberty, oldage, or otherwise). Most of the studies were short term (3 months was longest). I think probably the best way to go for *real* gyno is about 20mg ED of tamoxifen for 3-5 months. [/QU



Right on Taibin...thanks for the back-up....I just might stay on it that long...After two weeks at a higher dose...