****A Warning about steroids****

[Bouncer]

To all the new people here thinking about using steroids and even to the Vets. As most of you know I recently decided to come off AAS after about 2 years of non stop use just to let my body have a break and get everything balanced out. I have been off for 2 months now and let me tell you, its one of the hardest things I have ever done. Steroids are highly addictive and dont let anyone ever tell you other wise. I havent lost any size or stregth since being off but I think I may have lost my mind! haha. The hormonal changes that happen in the body is enough to drive you nuts. One minute im happy, the next angry and the next almost in tears.

Just wanted to let you guys know that AAS do cause many problems. I know this may seem weird comming from the owner of a board about steroids but for those who are thinking about giving steroids a try, I would recomend against it..

[GreekTank]

Swallow Tribulus like no tomorrow, 100 mg of Zinc daily, 450mg daily of magnesium, Horny goat weed, maca, and everything or anything else that will help you recover, Good luck bro!

[Cmsmallzz]

Well said Bro...I am gong through it as we speak and almost started popping some anavar today actually. I have been off for a little over a month and also maintained size and strength, which isn't the issue. But the mood swings and emotions are killing me.

[Timma]

That is an awesome post, but it sounds more like you're going through menopause. :P

[Stonecold54]

Drugs are bad, mmmmm-kkaayyy.


I agree. i had a hard time coming off mentally but I recovered fast so that eased that part of it.

[shortz]

Sounds like you are still shut down hard. I am assuming you still haven't tried Hcg? It's never too late BOUNCER.

I agree with you. Steroids are mentally addictive and in a way, physically. When you come off of steroids, you rebound. What happens when someone quits smoking? Same thing, they rebound. Receptors down-regulating is one reason why you rebound when you come off too. This can play a major role in addiction, just like many other drugs.

[Twix]

Originally posted by Cmsmallzz
Well said Bro...I am gong through it as we speak and almost started popping some anavar today actually.

THats ironic, I just did pop some anavar yesterday because I couldn't wait any longer. Been off since July, off a 6 month cycle. So... 4.5 months is good to start up again. :D

BOuncer give it altleast a couple of months for the mental shit to slow down. Definetly take some HCG though, but i'm sure you know that.

[jsb6812]

thanks man.. bouncer...i respect u alot to come foward saying all this... ur a person that i and many other newbies do look up to and respect and a person that we take advice from.. and u comming out and saying this means alot... thanks man... good luck and stay strong....

[Keiser]

Originally posted by GreekTank
Swallow Tribulus like no tomorrow, 100 mg of Zinc daily, 450mg daily of magnesium, Horny goat weed, maca, and everything or anything else that will help you recover, Good luck bro!

more drugs to help you get over the side effects of another drug is not the answer. Eventually to come completely clean you have to just tough it out and let your body balance itself out.

Some of the things you guys put into your body kills me, and I used to be the same way, I had all kinds of shit, ala, maca root, juice, clomid, zoloft, cialis, nolvadex, ephedra, caffeine, processed protein bars, powdered protein shakes, etc..... then i'd read a post about how this or that made someone feel better or increased their natural test levels and i'd be taking that as well.

I damn near lost my mind. I finally came clean of everything it was very hard. I did a colon cleanse, a liver cleanse, drank nothing but water, no caffeine, no alcohol, no steroids, no miracle supplements for awhile now and I finally feel normal again. I wake up alert, I don't have to worry whether or not my dick is going to work, don't worry about my sex drive, or mood swings, no more back pain thanks to the extra weight i've lost. Granted i'm thinner, i'm healthy, even people tell me that when they see me, and I thought when I was bigger and muscular that I looked and felt my best, but nothing compares to the way I feel now.

I don't want to argue with anyone, but i'm just telling you my experience, about 2 years ago i'd be arguing with myself now, so I know the boat most of you are in. There is nothing more important in life than your health, not money, not getting pussy, nice cars or nothing. If you have your health you have everything. I hope some of you sit back and just think about all the things you are putting into your body, not just the juice, but all the supplements, etc... Most of that stuff will throw your body completely out of whack sometimes to the point of no return.

[hitmansb]

This is why I've never been a fan of long cycles. I've always believed in doing one or two cycles per year, and no longer than 10-12 weeks tops. Everyone should definately consider the potential worst-case scenarios before trying AAS.

[therock]

Shit Bouncer you are doing weel from the last time I heard you talking about coming off. You are at least letting us know how you are doing and also telling people to not take AAS if they have not already. I see a specimen evolving into a man! I applaud you in so many ways bro. Because to be honest with you I think if I were to ever juice that long I would be not as loyal to my word as you are. Bro dont ever forget what I told you in the last thread you made about the samething. Remember, you can either turn left or right on that road. You must decide. There will be bumps, cracks, and detours but if you pick the right road you will find the way. Dont give up. You can do it bro, and you will do it.

[Pumpdogg]

This is why I love this board. Even the owner will tell you that drugs are not the best route to take in life. Bouncer I'm glad you are hanging in there bro, takes a real man to speak the truth and not hide behind curtain. Take care bro and keep your head up, there is light at the end of the tunnel. You gots all our respect pimp juice

PD

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by Keiser
There is nothing more important in life than your health

your right and for the first time in my life i really understand that.

we as bodybuilders and just regular people who want to look good will almost stop at no cost to achieve those goals. sometimes we get so involved with what we are doing that we forget what is important. for me, i think it was my grandpop dieing that made something "click" in my head and it made me realize there are more important things.

im still a bodybuilder and i still love this lifestyle, i will continue to use AAS in the future but i will be much more smart about it.

[Bouncer]

thanks therock and pumpdog. :)

[drgoodbody]

2 - excellent posts above. One from Bounce, one from Keiser. Good lessons in there for the newbies.

I came to a similar conclusion sometime back, probably about a year ago, but have not been willing or able to discuss it openly. I've been on the boards about 4 years and have all the knowledge and money it takes to blow up huge - and for a time that is all I wanted to do. See how big and strong I could get. Finally, last year I concluded that I was becoming mentally addicted to all this shit. In a typical day I would take 1-3 shots, and down 20+ pills, plus shakes, etc... and worry about my food, training, every detail. Legal risks, health risks, all that shit hung over me - plus the sleepless nights when you're on so much crap and your body doesn't know whether to rest, get up or take a shit.

Not to get preachy, because I'm surely no saint, but now I have a more balanced approach to my supplement use. First, I only do 2 cycles a year max, and they are 10-12 weeks each. Second, when I'm off, I'm off - after pct I have no bridges, no prohormones, no hormonal supplements of any kind. I use GH during my cycles, but come clean when off. I'm totally clean for at least 6 months of the year and at times it's hard but I know it is the right thing to do. Third, I don't go for all out size any more - my cycles are moderate and I work to improve my shape and to maintain a healthy feel and appearance. I don't really want to shove 5000+ cals down my throat a day, and blow up to 250 at 5'9". Just not worth it to me (and at one time I was 227, now I'm 200-205 and feel much better). Lastly, I do cardio year round to maintain physical fitness, appearance and my health.

My approach works for me and has broken my obsession with juice and supplements thru moderation. There is value in using these all these compounds to improve health and well being. Its just that most people go overboard, maybe not all at once, but a little at a time. It's a slippery slope and once you start sliding it is hard to stop. Good luck and best of health to all.

DrG