Originally posted by Mr incredible Bro, From my experience taking trib doesnt increase your test level, and the measure I use of this is that it doesn't increase my sex drive. Just as viagra makes me hard I think Trib has some effect of increasing blood flow and cartillage retention of blood.
You might get more horny as it increases you confinence to give wood, but the stuff itself doesn't increase natural test like nolva/clomid or HCG(temporarily) does.
All this PCT talk is relevent when you consider Tren, I did the original Parabolon with anapolon and Dynabolon 13 years ago and it shut me down to the point where I had to see a consultant endocrinologist. I didn't know anything about PCT back then, but I was only 15.
One thing was for sure though, I was the only mutha benching 315 for six on the flat in my gym.
Hinesight is a wonderful thing as long as your clairvoyant (spelling)
Wow! 15 eh brother, how are your levels now? nothing permenant in damage I pray! Be safe brother!
Originally posted by BENCH355ANIMAL About as good as your benchpress Sally:ghey:
Oh shit! sorry brother, had you confused with the thread starter on that topic bodybuilder6949, joke was intended for him. Your user signs look similar! Sorry!
Respect!
Originally posted by GreekTank Oh shit! sorry brother, had you confused with the thread starter on that topic bodybuilder6949, joke was intended for him. Your user signs look similar! Sorry!
Respect!
I know lots of different bodybuilders and athletes from other disciplines and at all levels. . .some react very negatively to AAS in the agression department and I think that it is good to point out the fact that the almighty physicians desk reference still has that stupid statement in it that says AAS do not increase size and strength (in canada anyway!). . .books sometimes do not tell the truth whereas many times going and doing it will give you the answer. If Steroids don't increase aggression then I am a 160lb pencil neck! (sorry if you are 160 lb pencil neck .. .no offense!) :)
Cell tech is junk. . .well, I take it and I like it. . .as do at least 4 top level pros that I know and have talked to/trained with. .I think it comes down to the fact that many people just don't like it because they don't have the money to buy it.
Tribulus does not increase test. ..well, does it really matter?. . .as long as it give a guy wood that is all that most guys care about. . .
This argument/discussion could go on forever but it all comes down to trying it for yourself and seeing what works. . .those that have not tried something cannot say to someone else that it does or does not have some effect etc. . .YJ, this is not pointed at you but seeing as this whole "discussion" seems to be going around the whole "books vs. experience" thing and you are on the book side:) I have to side with the experience party on this one, because I have done the books thing and I have decided that sometimes experience will tell a person the true answer that cannot be found in a book. Science will tell us certain things, but what about those things that just can't be explained? That is when you have to go and see for yourself/do it yourself instead of just reading about it.
Originally posted by canadagold I know lots of different bodybuilders and athletes from other disciplines and at all levels. . .some react very negatively to AAS in the agression department and I think that it is good to point out the fact that the almighty physicians desk reference still has that stupid statement in it that says AAS do not increase size and strength (in canada anyway!). . .books sometimes do not tell the truth whereas many times going and doing it will give you the answer. If Steroids don't increase aggression then I am a 160lb pencil neck! (sorry if you are 160 lb pencil neck .. .no offense!) :)
Cell tech is junk. . .well, I take it and I like it. . .as do at least 4 top level pros that I know and have talked to/trained with. .I think it comes down to the fact that many people just don't like it because they don't have the money to buy it.
Tribulus does not increase test. ..well, does it really matter?. . .as long as it give a guy wood that is all that most guys care about. . .
This argument/discussion could go on forever but it all comes down to trying it for yourself and seeing what works. . .those that have not tried something cannot say to someone else that it does or does not have some effect etc. . .YJ, this is not pointed at you but seeing as this whole "discussion" seems to be going around the whole "books vs. experience" thing and you are on the book side:) I have to side with the experience party on this one, because I have done the books thing and I have decided that sometimes experience will tell a person the true answer that cannot be found in a book. Science will tell us certain things, but what about those things that just can't be explained? That is when you have to go and see for yourself/do it yourself instead of just reading about it.
Thanks Canada Gold. You hit the tail on the donkey! That exactly what I was trying to say in my last post. Thanks bro. Hopefully now they both are happy.
Originally posted by GreekTank Wow! 15 eh brother, how are your levels now? nothing permenant in damage I pray! Be safe brother!
It was a mistake and yeah I'm fine, the consultant gave me direct LH hormone at the time, nobody I know of has ever heard of such a treatment existing, it worked and I stayed off till I competed age 19, then I only did and eight weeker, I won the comp, then stayed natural for 8 years, only recently started again. Now I know the need for proper understanding of each compound and I read like a fuckin PHD student cramming for exams.
Thanks for the concern bro, in fact I came off some oral turinabol before christmas and my balls are now like watermelons I think I've got quinteplets in there, so everythings cool.
Originally posted by Mr incredible It was a mistake and yeah I'm fine, the consultant gave me direct LH hormone at the time, nobody I know of has ever heard of such a treatment existing, it worked and I stayed off till I competed age 19, then I only did and eight weeker, I won the comp, then stayed natural for 8 years, only recently started again. Now I know the need for proper understanding of each compound and I read like a fuckin PHD student cramming for exams.
Thanks for the concern bro, in fact I came off some oral turinabol before christmas and my balls are now like watermelons I think I've got quinteplets in there, so everythings cool.
Yeah, Nice to hear your o.k. my first cycle was at 24, now I've been off for 5 months. What is oral turinabol?
So basically, this drug is mild on the system, building muscle more slowly but permenant. Also increases libido, must not shut you down as hard, never heard anyone using this! Incredibly Interesting!
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