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[traceillusions@]

First, a little background- i have been working offshore for the better part of 12 years...i was involved in an offshore accident that crushed one of my disc in my back...after surgery(fusion-invasive), i lost 25 lbs. This is extreme, given that i only weighed 155 before my accident. My physical therepist told me, on the side :hmmm: , that anabolic steroids would do wonders for my recovery. I got a bottle of cypiate, and did a complete cycle. I am completely amazed at my progress!! My question is this- i have been off-cycle for 9 weeks...is it safe to start another? AND-if so, I will include(this time) deca...you all probably here this all the time, but please give advice on a correct(and safe) dosage....please remember, i am not looking to compete, just to give my poor back muscles a little help in the recovery process. Also, i did have a little problem with acne on my back(i know this is normal), is there any way to treat it? Thank you

[ROCKETW19]

your therapist should be shot in the head.

or at least the knee cap! :hang:

[TripleXx]

Not a very smart therapist. The gear is not going to help your disc heal any faster or any better. We all know that gear allows us to increase weight rapidly which is what you dont want to do after having surgery on your back.

Stupid people like your therapist make me feel good about myself. I still have 3 semesters of school before i graduate as a Physical therapist assistant and there is no way that i would ever recommend gear to a patient in therapy..

[traceillusions@]

okay fellas...little misunderstanding!!! My disc is completely destroyed...titanium rods now "fuse" my vertabrea together. The steroids are for the muscle recovery that was CUT during SURGERY!... :laughnew: my disc is history....my tendons and back muscles need to regain their strength...now that that is clear...an intelligent response.....please :nerdnew:
by the way...its been 13 months since surgery

[traceillusions@]

one more thing...although i am greatful for your concern about the quality of treatment i am recieving, my questions do not involve it. I am completely recovered(as complete as could possibly be), and have been leading a normal, if not comprimised life. The only reason i gave my history was to emphasize that i am not trying to win mr. olympia, but to recover faster. Your medical opinions aside, a cycle please :moron: and some tips for fighting acne....thanks again, guys

[traceillusions@]

i am 32...looking for correct dosage for cypiate and deca together
p.s. THE ICEMAN FUCKING RULES :bravonew:
P.S.S. yes , it has been over 9 weeks since my cycle ended

[Shibby]

How long was your other cycle? How much time have you taken to learn about what your putting in your body? Cypionate is an ester, it tells us nothing about the drug you want to take.

[traceillusions@]

sorry shibby...testosterone...maybe i forgot the correct name...but it was tes.
I was on an 8 week cycle that was-1/2cc,1cc,1&1/2cc(4 weeks),1&1/2cc,1cc,1/2cc....if i am not using correct terms, i sincerely apologize. I have done(still updating) research on different types and according to most, Deca appears to be the best, along with a tes base. I had nothing but fantastic results from my first cycle....it had been years since there was no pain in my back. I know it was masked by test, but even after being off for over 2 months, the little pain i feel is fading daily. My strength has improved a hundred fold, but still lacks my former glory....which isn't much compared to u pro's.Thank you for inquiring... :o .....Response?
oh, yeah...is there a certain tes i should get? I know there are many types, any thing i should know?

[Shibby]

Ok I'm going to give you the bad with the good. You should really know what you are doing before you put these drugs in your body. With a cyp ester there is no need to taper up and down. Also I have you didn't post how many mg/ml the old stuff or the new stuff is. But test is test it just depends on how often you want to inject. Rule of thumb for cycling is time on equals time off. Time on includes PCT and time off does not start until you finish PCT. Alot of your acne probably came from trying to self taper a long acting ester and your blood levels where whacked out the whole time.

[traceillusions@]

Ok I'm going to give you the bad with the good. You should really know what you are doing before you put these drugs in your body. With a cyp ester there is no need to taper up and down. Also I have you didn't post how many mg/ml the old stuff or the new stuff is. But test is test it just depends on how often you want to inject. Rule of thumb for cycling is time on equals time off. Time on includes PCT and time off does not start until you finish PCT. Alot of your acne probably came from trying to self taper a long acting ester and your blood levels where whacked out the whole time.

Thanks for the info shibby. I was told that tapering wasn't nessecery, but i was just trying to be careful. I believe it was a 10ml bottle. i am about to get another 10ml of tes and 20ml of deca. So, i just jump right in with 1& ahalf ml of tes and 3ml of deca, weekly, for 6 weeks? PCT was not part of my first regime, because I was under the impression that what i was taken was not enough to worry about it. I DO have it, and will use after this cycle.You said "trying to self taper"(in the area where you explained the acne)...are you speaking of going up and down in my dosage? probably so...just want to make sure. Now that you know what i have(10ml-tes;20ml-deca), could you advise a good cycle? Thank you shibby....I appreciate you not floggin me for stupidity, I only want knowledge, to safely rebuild my body.

[Shibby]

You still didn't say how many mg's there is in a ml. Either way that's a horrible 6 week cycle. You need to do some research on esters.

[ROCKETW19]

just for the record bro no one was flamming you we were flamming you theropist. what you need to do is read everything in the nutrition section then search the drugs you want to take. in that prosses you will learn even more than what you are lookin for. and you will also know how to make a post about a cycle. we will tham be more than glad to help you out.

basically its not that we dont wanna help you but you should know for your self instead of trustin everythin that i say.

[traceillusions@]

I understand ...sort-of. I've worked a back-breaking job, which takes lives every year, my entire life(workin life, anyway); so i was well informed when it came to the danger of steroids(so some say). Do not misinterpret my inquisitive nature as foolhearty, I have found hundreds of cycles on the web, but without the formality of absolute truth, I choose to come to this forum to get an idea of a cycle.Period. I appreciate your candor, but please just advise on the cycle...You are most wise and i am most stupid...There, inform me. By the way, do you have any IDEA how many different people are out there saying the opposite of someone else??? :hmmm: Guess not, since you ALREADY KNOW THE INS AND OUTS. Pretty please...advice on a cycle
p.s.nice car... sweet

[traceillusions@]

(shibby) 200mg/ml....were you commenting on previous cycle? Or the one i will shortly start? I do not have the deca yet, so I am unsure at this moment which kind it is. Could u recommend a certain type? How about a cycle? How many freakin different strengths are there?? Good grief :laughnew: I need a P.H.D just to do a cycle. :woot:

[ROCKETW19]

your funny bro! what have you done in the past cycle wise how many mgs per week ect? i will help you but you realy should research.