qv deca 200 $ 300

[TripleXx]

yea man 29lbs.....no lie theres a guy on here i lift with that saw my weight before and sees it now....its all in the diet and training....i quit my job to workout i eat almost 7000 calories a day and go to the gym 2x a day 5 days a week and do my abs and cardio sat and sunday its all about work ethic

7000 cals a day? What are your stats Bro? How about posting some pics up.

[BIGSHAQ]

RRRRRRRRRight....yeah man

[Bouncer]

i eat almost 7000 calories a day

post your diet. $100 says you dont eat half of that.

[zed]

yea i wanna c before and after...if thats tru thats nutz bro. Bounce how old were u wen u first started up? how long had u trained for?

[Control]

are u trying to tell me u put on 29lbs from 500mgs of test a week :laughnew:

It's possible. I've seen it more than once. Probably not just from test, he probably got serious about bulking diet-wise when he started his cycle. That happens alot. Guys don't want to waste their gear so they start eating like crazy when the cycle starts....

[DS-COUSIN]

currently taking the 300, i feel as if it may be fake....it's darker in color than my test, and i am not seeing the results that i have seen in the past

Color is not a sure tell-tell sign if your gear is fake. Did you check the 'lot#' prior to the QV site going down? If not, how long have you been on?<--You won't feel anything the first week, or the second, third, but maybe(depending on your body) in the fourth week.

To answer your question about what is better than QV, ANYTHING! If this is all you have, then this is all you have. If you are just needed ONE that is better than QV, well, British Dragon is one. Others can give you a list of about 50-manufacturers that would be better than QV, both VET and Human grade...

[blingin]

Color is not a sure tell-tell sign if your gear is fake. Did you check the 'lot#' prior to the QV site going down? If not, how long have you been on?<--You won't feel anything the first week, or the second, third, but maybe(depending on your body) in the fourth week.

To answer your question about what is better than QV, ANYTHING! If this is all you have, then this is all you have. If you are just needed ONE that is better than QV, well, British Dragon is one. Others can give you a list of about 50-manufacturers that would be better than QV, both VET and Human grade...

i've been in the game for a while now, that's y i say it mite be fake....not seeign the results --am in week 6....i know the test is def working....and i never got to chek the lot #

[Shibby]

There's a reason it's a popular post.

[Rob5454]

yeah, i train with parabody on a regular basis. He has made insane gains for being on week 8. hes up 23lbs as of last week hes doin extremely well for first cycle gains not to mention im 5 weeks behind him :needle:

[Shibby]

so is it 23 lbs or 29lbs? That's a 6lb difference. Nothing against you, but I still want to see his diet.

[daf2]

yea man 29lbs.....no lie theres a guy on here i lift with that saw my weight before and sees it now....its all in the diet and training....i quit my job to workout i eat almost 7000 calories a day and go to the gym 2x a day 5 days a week and do my abs and cardio sat and sunday its all about work ethic

7000 is quite a lot of food...wats your diet looking like>?

[TripleXx]

yeah, i train with parabody on a regular basis. He has made insane gains for being on week 8. hes up 23lbs as of last week hes doin extremely well for first cycle gains not to mention im 5 weeks behind him :needle:

Well, someone is a f***ing liar. He said that he had only ran a test cycle before and called this cycle his 2nd. Then he says this is his first real cycle. But if you read his post from above he said that he messed up and ran a dbol cycle by itself his first time.

So which is it? 1st...2nd......3rd..?????
Just because you didnt know what the fuck you were doing doesnt mean you can say its your first time. If that was true then most people on earth would still be virgins. :hmmm:

[space mountain]

Well I would first advise that you atleast have have 5 or more good years of training and eating right before thinking about steroids. I would also advise that you be atleast 21 if not older. Assuming your 21 or older and have trained and ate hard for many years I would say something like 500mgs of test per week for 12 weeks would be a fine first cycle. No need for anything else or multiple compounds. Save tha kinda thing for later.

good post bouncer !
i wouldnt use qv bro if i had a free life supply of it! now that i have used pharmicutical grade gear never use anything else!

[parabody]

at one point at the highest i gained was 29lbs....i started doing alot more cardio and dropped down a lil this week....about 2 weeks ago i was weighing in at about 244 and im actually down to around 236-238 now.....yea when i evaluated my diet with a program i have it says my average caloric intake is about 4500 i just thought it was higher....this is my 2nd cycle....the first one was a dbol only...in one post i said i ran a test cycle first so that i didnt get a bunch of shit. really this is my 2nd one....either way this thread was hijacked by accident and i have a thread of my 4 week progress that i just updated....i will def post up some pics but right now i got a gut and am ashamed of it...i will post up a before and after when summer comes around and i cut down my bf.....and control is right i didnt ever get this serious about a diet until i was on....when i was off i thought a i had a decent diet until i started to look at what i was acutally eating....thats prb the main reason im gaining the way i am....my gains have started to level off now i dont feel its hitting me the way it was before....

[Shibby]

Well it sounds like you have quite a bit of fat since you dropped quickly when doing cardio. I would still suggest you post your diet and get some advice, but that's up to you. I respect that you set the facts straight and don't worry about the thread being hijacked, it was over by the 7th post. :)