know what your injecting and stay very clean when doing so

[pockethercules]

I find that hard to believe.

Well Shibby, really don't care if you believe it or not. Been taking gear of and on for 10 years and always using the utmost care when injecting and have never had a problem! The only thing I did different was get in the whirlpool right after I took the shot. When I went to the doctor he said that is exactly what happened. That break in the skin allowed the bacteria from the whirlpool to get in. Now if I would have waited an hour and it had clotted, I probably would not have had a problem.