gh and igf13

[house1]

been running 5 and 6 ius of growth ed and 120 mcgs igf13 - it does amazing things to the body - remember though you could be speeding up the monster . may show alot sooner in life then you could imagine . you might have gone through your entire life without it ever popping its ugly head up .

these are the risks that we are taking -

will elaborate more on this in the coming weeks

[beefcake]

Do you feel you would see the same benefits just running the igf?

[Lmg2701]

I take it you're refering to cancer?

[beefcake]

I take it you're refering to cancer?

I believe so, but now that I re-read his post, he makes it sound like something has come up. Did you get bad news dude? Tell me you don't got nothing man.

[coffee-guy]

been running 5 and 6 ius of growth ed and 120 mcgs igf13 - it does amazing things to the body - remember though you could be speeding up the monster . may show alot sooner in life then you could imagine . you might have gone through your entire life without it ever popping its ugly head up .

these are the risks that we are taking -

will elaborate more on this in the coming weeks

Are you okay bro?

You can't leave us hanging like this...

Best of luck either way....

[house1]

will know more in the coming weeks guys -- it maybe nothing -- people that use these tools need to realize there can be a chance that you could speed things up . like the formation of cancer -

i found a lump -- i go to my doc monday - he will send me to a specialist -- so its going to take a couple weeks to actually find out what it is .

facts are and some forget - there is a chance of waking the beast with things like growth and igf13 -- i did the research ! i knew this ! i still went forward - hope its nothing but if it is something well i will cross that bridge when i get there. shit no choice at that point !


bouncers post on the body builders got me thinking -- i feel to my very soul with responsible use under doctors supervision you can live a long healthier life with certain gear . responsible use being the key word !

now to my point

to compete you have to manipulate and beat your body up with training and higher and more frequent gear use . its a fucking catch 22 - you dont the guy standing next to you is . since i started competeing i have seen the darker side of gear use - its scary !!

i have 4 shows to do this year - do i have to do them no but i have a goal , thats to qualify 4 the jr nat - will be 37 in jan so my window is closing so caution is thrown to the wind -

i feel like shit most of the time --- i am a big motherfucker right now not trying to sound like a dick but i am - i go nowhere without being looked at ,talked about etc,etc, i was a little mothefucker at one time my dream was to be a big bastard - i am there and could care less -
i feel like shit most of the time , my heavy weight training over the years is starting to catch me, etc,etc
why not slow down or stop - i am addicted and thats no bullshit -- my entire life ,my families lives are all build around my training , my fucking life style - i miss the old days of enjoying banging the weights a few days aweek and living life - i love to bowhunt - havent even pulled the bow out of its case - i go to the gym at 4 am - come home head to work go to the gym after work come home go to bed repeat the next day - hell of a life , i bounce on the weekends to help with show expenses - no time

i can keep going on this and will in the future -- this shit is not all that its cracked up to be - trust me

[Bouncer]

this shit is not all that its cracked up to be

i realized this when my grandfather died about 2-3 years ago. it woke me up and i took a look around one day. the very thing that I love to do is the very thing that was destroying my life. i did not care about anyone or anything besides bodybuilding. i put it in front of everything.

i have since learned a little better on how to handle it. i still love bodybuilding, its is who i am, it is a HUGE part of my life. with that said, life can not be taken for granted and we can not forget about our friends and family in the pursuit of a better body. these things can be taken away very easily and we should never forget that. i will continue to train hard, eat clean and so on, but i will also put my health and family before all else.

house, if you need to discuss anything you know im here brother. i know what your going through in terms of health scares and all the bullshit that we put ourselves through.

[Lmg2701]

It is a rough life style. If you don't know that before taking the dive you find it out very quickly. It consumes you. You revolve everything and everyone around it.


You HAVE to step back and realize what is important to you. If you have children and a wife and you are putting them 2nd you've got to re-evaluate your priorites before it's too late. Qualifying for Jr Nats gives you a goal and helps you stay focused and determined with dieting and training, but don't get so wrapped up that you destroy what's even more important than bodybuilding will ever be and that's your family.


You seem like an intelligent guy and I wish you the best in all your endeavors, just remember, keep your priorites in order before it's too late. God bless bro.

[house1]

i realized this when my grandfather died about 2-3 years ago. it woke me up and i took a look around one day. the very thing that I love to do is the very thing that was destroying my life. i did not care about anyone or anything besides bodybuilding. i put it in front of everything.

i have since learned a little better on how to handle it. i still love bodybuilding, its is who i am, it is a HUGE part of my life. with that said, life can not be taken for granted and we can not forget about our friends and family in the pursuit of a better body. these things can be taken away very easily and we should never forget that. i will continue to train hard, eat clean and so on, but i will also put my health and family before all else.

house, if you need to discuss anything you know im here brother. i know what your going through in terms of health scares and all the bullshit that we put ourselves through.

thanks bouncer -- may just take you up on that bro

[sonis9]

House1- long time no talk my friend- i know i am not next door bro, but if you need anything holla- i kinda just went through the same senario as you are talking about. poured 4 years of my life into this sport. nothing got in my way. everything in my life was secondary, except for redsquirrel. then we built the house, got a new job, and got prego. it forced me to take time away. no gym and no gear for over a year. i did not like what i had become, but new i could not let it take over my life again the way i had let it before. i am finally now working it back into my life, and looking to requalifiy for the national scene. my outlook on the dark side of the sport has changed also. i know i will never be pro. so were do i draw the line?? i have come to the relization that i can qualify no problem without pushing it to hard, but to crack the top 5 at one of the big 4 shows i may have to get into things i don't really want to at this stage of my life. i just may have to settle for a top 10 finish!! anyway bro- i am right with you and wish you nothing but the best in the near future!!

[house1]

House1- long time no talk my friend- i know i am not next door bro, but if you need anything holla- i kinda just went through the same senario as you are talking about. poured 4 years of my life into this sport. nothing got in my way. everything in my life was secondary, except for redsquirrel. then we built the house, got a new job, and got prego. it forced me to take time away. no gym and no gear for over a year. i did not like what i had become, but new i could not let it take over my life again the way i had let it before. i am finally now working it back into my life, and looking to requalifiy for the national scene. my outlook on the dark side of the sport has changed also. i know i will never be pro. so were do i draw the line?? i have come to the relization that i can qualify no problem without pushing it to hard, but to crack the top 5 at one of the big 4 shows i may have to get into things i don't really want to at this stage of my life. i just may have to settle for a top 10 finish!! anyway bro- i am right with you and wish you nothing but the best in the near future!!

sonis , great to hear from you bro !!!! keep me updated on your progress brother -- will let you know what they find at the docs .. went to my primary today - going for an ultra sound tomorrow morning at 815 so they can get a look at it - see what they want to do from there .. get this past me !! you dont know how good it is to hear from you . red kept me informed when i asked about you .. glad everything is good brother

[house1]

Damn....Wish nothing bad comes from this.

Why don't you just stop after this last show, or just maintain?

i am bro -- this will be my last year - unless i dont qualify :hmmm: -

seriously though -- i have backed off some stuff -- its not that easy to just walk away from goals for me -- been that way my whole life - wife says its great in some instances but sucks in others.

will let u know what they find

[house1]

update -

went for ultra sound this morning very inconclusive -- scheduled to see a surgeon monday morning to see what direction to take - will keep updated

[Mr I]

Good luck house1, I feel like I understand where your coming from on the life balance thing, I used to work full time during the week and bounce nights at weekend.

Its called burning the candle at both ends, you can hold up ok but you know its aging you and your missing out on your own time, time with your lady etc

BB ing is such a self absorbing sport at times, you can still enjoy it without competing bro

[Chadd77]

Keep us updated bro. Wish nothing but the best for you.